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re: Pete Roussel(CoachingSearch.com) Says Patterson to Arkansas

Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:38 pm to
Posted by Kilgore Snout
Ilium, NY
Member since Jul 2012
844 posts
Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:38 pm to
Unfortunately none of those guys are giving up their jobs to go to Fayetteville. We know what we need, but it's not always easy to get that. Petrino and Pattersons of the world can have moderate success because they do coach up what we're able to get. Sometimes you have to wonder how much is someone like Pete Carroll a great recruiter, or is it the location and the fact that Snoop Dogg and Will Ferrell are on the sidelines chumming it up with players every practice. Is it the job or the person? Would he be as effective in Fayetteville as he was in LA?
Posted by Woopigsooie20
Me Scusi
Member since Mar 2010
57350 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:58 am to
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16 true freshman? did he skip recruiting for 3 years? ...

recruiting falls on the head coach ...



They lost 9 starters on D from last year, plus they had alot of injuries this year and of course the drug bust thing awhile back booted some guys on D. Their D still isn't bad, 22nd in Total D nationally.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 5:59 am to
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Sometimes I wonder if these schools know what kind of coach they need. If you are a school with a ton of talent in your backyard you either want a guy who can kill it with Xs and Os or a guy that connects well enough with players to be a great motivater, because you don't need a recruiter when talent falls in your lap. (Looking at you USC.) But if you are in the SEC and in a lesser state when it comes to recruiting (Arkansas, Tennessee) you want to hire a recruiting guru first and foremost. I respect Patterson a lot, and once in a while he has gotten a recruiting skin on the wall. But he is a much better developer of talent than a recruiter of talent. I put him in the same category as Tuberville. That is not that kind of coach Arkansas needs. Pete Carroll is the type of coach Arkansas needs. Edit: although, I will say putting Patterson together with an excellent recruiting assistant under him could make for an excellent hire overall.


You see the situation much better than a majority of our fans.
Posted by 8miles
slidell
Member since Oct 2005
5653 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 6:07 am to
If this is true,.then to arky fans. Patterson is a homerun hire.
Posted by Max Guru
Member since Sep 2012
531 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 8:23 am to
...very informative article here by stefan stevenson of the ft. worth star telegram on Big 12 coaching salaries, including in-depth on gary patterson >

i think if jeff long is willing to make gary patterson the highest paid coach in college football, there is zero chance he will not accept the offer. quite simply, it would be flat stupid to turn it down. i don't think patterson is stupid. to put your name above brown, saban, and stoops as #1 pay man equals coaching prestige in the 1st degree.

LINK

(link works now)
This post was edited on 11/16/12 at 9:23 am
Posted by HawgAlude
Member since Jul 2008
5658 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 8:47 am to
your LINk= No working


Patterson will not be the next coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks, ask me how I know?


Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 9:05 am to
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Patterson will not be the next coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks, ask me how I know?


Because they are still talking with their top target in Mike Gundy. is that how you know?
Posted by Max Guru
Member since Sep 2012
531 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 9:21 am to
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your LINk= No working


i'll try it again. If it doesn't work, google "gary patterson salary", it will be the link shown here on google > TCU's Patterson behind only Brown, Stoops, Gundy in Big 12 salary

LINK

the link seems to be working fine now. must not have copied it all first time.
This post was edited on 11/16/12 at 9:22 am
Posted by DC RaiseHerBack
Member since Nov 2006
55445 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 9:23 am to
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Because they are still talking with their top target in Mike Gundy. is that how you know?


No because he is a bi-polar poster...fricking weirdo.



But your info matches Hawgeye's
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:42 am to
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But if you are in the SEC and in a lesser state when it comes to recruiting (Arkansas, Tennessee) you want to hire a recruiting guru first and foremost.

I respect Patterson a lot, and once in a while he has gotten a recruiting skin on the wall. But he is a much better developer of talent than a recruiter of talent. I put him in the same category as Tuberville. That is not that kind of coach Arkansas needs. Pete Carroll is the type of coach Arkansas needs.


This sounds a lot like Petrino. He wasn't a good recruiter, either. he was more of an Xs and Ox & developer.

I'd love it if we could have both. But if we can't, I'll take a tactician.

A lot of people have thrown out this $6MM/yr figure for Arkansas' coach. I've always wondered if that was, maybe, the entire coaching budget being offered. "We'll give you $6MM/yr to put together your staff. However much for you, however much for your DC, OC, etc, etc...but no more than $6MM."

I'd rather we spent $4MM on a HC and had a badass DC than $6MM on a coach with some chump calling our defense.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 6:03 pm to
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Got to admit though that I have been on the Gruden or Carroll bandwagon before him though.


Are you serious?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 6:05 pm to
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it would cost every bit of 6 mil a year to get him from fort worth.


For Gary Patterson?

C'mon man
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132208 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 6:36 pm to
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it would cost every bit of 6 mil a year to get him from fort worth.

Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 11/16/12 at 7:49 pm to
GP is not worth $6MM/yr.
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