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Not sold on Lane Kiffin as a head coach
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:35 am
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:35 am
Whoever hires him is getting a bad deal.
Retread hires usually don't work out. There is a reason he failed at USC - he is not a good head coach.
Coordinator, fine. But head coach, no. Two different styles of leadership.
Retread hires usually don't work out. There is a reason he failed at USC - he is not a good head coach.
Coordinator, fine. But head coach, no. Two different styles of leadership.
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:37 am to goldennugget
quote:agreed which is why i'm so glad we hired internally for our man.
Retread hires usually don't work out.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:38 am to goldennugget
You don't say?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:39 am to goldennugget
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Retread hires usually don't work out. There is a reason he failed at USC - he is not a good head coach.
Coaches can improve. See Pete Carroll Patriots vs Pete Carroll Seahawks. Kiffin wasn't exactly working with a full deck at USC
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 8:41 am
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:40 am to goldennugget
Yet for some reason this logic doesn't apply to O
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:42 am to goldennugget
I agree. He has failed twice in high profile jobs where he had every resource imaginable. At Houston, he will have much less to work with. Combine that with his immaturity and you have a mess.
There's nothing wrong with being a career Coordinator. His father was a legend in the NFL. Kiffin will demand a salary of close to 2 million a year.
He's making a career mistake.
There's nothing wrong with being a career Coordinator. His father was a legend in the NFL. Kiffin will demand a salary of close to 2 million a year.
He's making a career mistake.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:42 am to goldennugget
Ehh, I can imagine him ending up with some blatant talent advantages through recruiting at Houston or USF and just burying crappy teams for a couple years.
I do agree with you that he'll never be unusually successful at a Power-5 level, though.
I do agree with you that he'll never be unusually successful at a Power-5 level, though.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:44 am to LSUwag
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At Houston, he will have much less to work with
Then maybe he'll learn about hard work, considering he's been handed everything his entire life.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:54 am to goldennugget
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There is a reason he failed at USC -
Yea, he was down 31 scholarships.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:55 am to goldennugget
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Retread hires usually don't work out. There is a reason he failed at USC - he is not a good head coach.
Be careful - the Orgeron supporters are going to accuse you of speaking in code here.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:56 am to The Godfather
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Yet for some reason this logic doesn't apply to O
Ain't neva seen Kiffon make a roux!
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:58 am to goldennugget
Someone please name a successful retread hire at the college level
Rich Rod worked for a short while at Arizona and now they are terrible
Muschamp is a retread hire at USC and the jury is still out
David Cutcliffe has been successful at Duke
Frank Solich has been OK at Ohio
Rich Rod worked for a short while at Arizona and now they are terrible
Muschamp is a retread hire at USC and the jury is still out
David Cutcliffe has been successful at Duke
Frank Solich has been OK at Ohio
Posted on 12/8/16 at 8:59 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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See Pete Carroll Patriots vs Pete Carroll Seahawks. Kiffin wasn't exactly working with a full deck at USC
Saban at Miami? Everyone likes to troll about him being an NFL bust
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:10 am to 14&Counting
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Saban at Miami? Everyone likes to troll about him being an NFL bust
Apples and oranges. NFL and college head coaching jobs are completely different.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:11 am to goldennugget
Are you sold on Kershaw yet?
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 9:12 am
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:15 am to goldennugget
And we care about this why? No OC at LSU, no fricks given.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:19 am to goldennugget
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Someone please name a successful retread hire at the college level
Rich Rod worked for a short while at Arizona and now they are terrible
Muschamp is a retread hire at USC and the jury is still out
David Cutcliffe has been successful at Duke
Frank Solich has been OK at Ohio
But all but one of those "retreads" were successful in their first stint as a head coach:
Rich Rod was very successful at West Va
Muschamp failed at UF
Cutcliffe was over .500 in SEC at Ole Miss
Frank Solich was very successful at Nebraska
By comparison, Orgeron was 3-21 in conference at Ole Miss. I'd argue that a guy that fails that badly in his first go-round as head coach isn't going to be wildly successful in his second go-round. Hope I'm wrong.
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