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re: List of Possibilities to replace Coach JJ

Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:57 am to
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:57 am to
A bama fan will be here shortly to question your sanity as to why you'd even list Marshall when he turned down the blueblood job that is crimson tide basketball. That said he and unfortunately probably Miller seem unrealistic.

Stansbury is basically johnny. Remember when he brought in Retardo Sidney and the players quit and walked all over him as the program crumbled? It would just be such a meh hire.

I honestly don't see myself ever caring about LSU hoops again and football is dangling by a thread. Alleva is a sackless bitch.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 11:00 am
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:15 am to
Coach K or Calipari. That's it.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25428 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:25 pm to
would love Archie Miller. money shouldn't be a concern when going after someone like him.

Just so some of you know, Gregg Marshall, head coach at Wichita State, makes $3M/yr. he would be great, but he isn't leaving there.
Same with Chris Mack at Xavier. Hometown boy that has been great, but we couldnt' get him.
same with Greg McDermott at Creigton.
same with Chris Holtmann at Butler.
It's sad that coaches at Wichita State, Creighton, Butler, Xavier, Dayton, aren't attainable for LSU.

I'd take a look at Ben Jacobson at Northern Iowa. been there 11 years and made the tourney 4 times, more than JJ has in his career.

Will Wade at VCU is a good one.

Tim Cluess is old, 57, but has done really well at Iona the last 5 years.

I think #1 guy that is attainable, fairly young (44) and is promising is Kevin Keats at UNC Wilmington.
Coached under Pitino during the 2013 championship. 1st place in their conference last 2 years, and likely this year as well. This is only his 3rd year. They were 20-50 in conference play the 4 years before he got there and he has them winning the conference 3 years in a row.

Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:36 pm to
I like Cluess because he looks like Kurt Vonnegut.
Posted by landmanner
Louisiana
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 12:56 pm to
Danny Broussard at STM. 74% career winning percentage.

During his tenure at St. Thomas More, Danny Broussard has led the Cougars to two state championships, five trips to the state finals, 10 Top 28 appearances and 16 district titles. They have only missed the playoffs twice under his rein, and have reached the quarterfinals in 20 of his 30 playoff appearances.

And, "he's one of us"....

Danny Broussard grew up in Meaux, Louisiana, a small unincorporated community in Vermilion Parish
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:24 pm to
Cuonzo Martin on Cal?
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 1:55 pm to
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Randy Livingston


If he can be half the coach he was as a point guard, I would take the gamble. After all, don't we have a two year ago out of work DL coach as our head football coach? How much more of a reach is Randy?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70889 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:08 pm to
As an MTSU grad and an avid MTSU basketball fan, Davis would be a great fit if he decided to come back to BR. I'd rather lose him to LSU than any other program, obviously.
Posted by blackmouthcur
Member since Sep 2016
400 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:30 pm to
We need basketball to fulfill its promise and move permanently from a revenue neutral to a revenue plus posture. It is the only sport, other than football, capable of doing that.

LSU can't continue to pilfer our football revenue stream and expect to compete at the top of the SEC. Therefore, a significant, long term commitment to staffing, facilities and venue is required to realize LSU's potential in basketball.

Joe Aleva must be allowed to approach the Archie Millers of the world with a lucrative, long-term contract offer, a generous staffing and recruiting budget, plus a detailed plan to provide the program a top 10 facility and venue package.

Football will suffer from a competitive perspective if it is forced to subsidize the universe of revenue negative sports solely from its coffers. LSU Atheletics NEEDS to make a concerted effort to build and sustain a top program in men's basketball.

Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28235 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:37 pm to
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Ben Jacobson at Northern Iowa. been there 11 years and made the tourney 4 times, more than JJ has in his career.


Jacobson is certainly a good coach, but I'd be worried about him being a "fit" at LSU as far a recruiting goes. Basically his entire career has been spent in North Dakota and Iowa. Can he get in with the right connections to recruit down here? Would he even want to?

Same for Tim Cluess. Obviously he's a good coach, but his experience is all in the Northeast. Plus, he's never coached at a power conf. school, even as an assistant. He went from HS coach, to community college coach, to D-II coach, to Iona. Maybe if he were younger it would be worth a flyer, but at 57, even if it only takes him 3 years to become entrenched within the LSU's recruiting landscape, he'd be in his early 60's.

Trent Johnson looked good on paper, but he was a career West Coast guy who never really fit in with the SEC recruiting landscape. Certainly LSU can't have a coach who just rolls the ball out on to the court like Jones, but that coach also has to be able to get players to come here.

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Kevin Keats at UNC Wilmington


He's done a good job at UNCW, but is he just a slightly better Johnny Jones? He was hired as an Asst. at Louisville SOLELY for his recruiting prowess as HC at Hargrave Military Academy. I don't think there is any doubt he could get talent to LSU, but that hasn't been Jones's problem either. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think at best, he is slightly better than Jones at LSU. Looks like the same kind of guy on paper

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Cuonzo Martin on Cal?


Martin is decent coach, but I don't see him coming back to the SEC (unless UK called). He left Tenn. as soon as he could. Some say it was because he was always compared to Pearl and could never live up to him in the eyes of the UT fans; Others say it's because the Tenn. fanbase was racist. Whatever it may be, I don't get the feeling he would want to come back to the south anytime soon.
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:40 pm to
My God, some LSU fans are delusional when it comes to basketball. No big time coach is taking that job. It's the third most popular sport their behind baseball and football. The arena is a shite hole and Johnny Jones has left a duumpster fire that would take years to clean up.

and when I mean big time coaches i'm talking about the Gregg Marshall's and Archie Millers of college basketball.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Mattgobear
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3048 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:31 pm to
Open up the checkbook for Wright and Marshall.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25428 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 4:45 pm to
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He's done a good job at UNCW, but is he just a slightly better Johnny Jones?


He's done 10 times better taking over a putrid UNC Wilmington than JJ did at UNT.

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He was hired as an Asst. at Louisville SOLELY for his recruiting prowess as HC at Hargrave Military Academy. I don't think there is any doubt he could get talent to LSU, but that hasn't been Jones's problem either.


That's never a bad thing. He won two national championships at hargrave by the way.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I think at best, he is slightly better than Jones at LSU. Looks like the same kind of guy on paper 


Where on JJs paper does it show him taking over a mid major that had 4 losing shitty seasons in a row before he takes over and then finishes first in the conference in his first 3 years?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28235 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 5:41 pm to
There's no question Keatts has done a good job so far at UNCW. Certianly better in his first 2.5 years than Jones did in his first 2.5 years at UNT. However, is LSU looking for a great coach, or just someone better than Jones?

In many respects, Keatt's best attributes and style of play are somewhat similar to Jones. Both are known for recruiting more than coaching. UNCW is much better than before he took over, but in 2.5 years they haven't beaten anyone of note. He's doing a good job in conf. and of beating the teams they are supposed to beat. His teams haven't been all that great on the defensive end.

He certainly wouldn't be the worst choice, but I would make several guys tell me no before I considered him. To me, the sample size is a bit too small.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
33979 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 6:37 pm to
Davis and Stansbury

right now Middle and Western are better jobs than LSU
Posted by blackmouthcur
Member since Sep 2016
400 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 8:47 pm to
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Personally, Williams would be my first call in that group. 




Good call. Hadn't considered the Vtech coach. Fine resume.

Quirky, intense, personable; teams play tough, sticky defense, force turnovers and push the ball hard on breaks. Disciplined offense with precise ball movement and smart shooting.

Williams would fit LSU like a glove. He could recruit and win, here, and stay a very long time.

Aleva's ACC contacts may prove useful, after all.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32856 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:17 pm to
Gregg Marshall would be my first choice, but I don't think he's coming here. I like Miller and Prohm too, but I think they will wait for big jobs to jump to, not a rebuild. I know LSU can compete and be the program it once was, but it's not that right now and won't be for a while.

Buzz Williams is intriguing. Really hadn't thought about him.

Alt26, I've been beating the Dana Ford drum. What do you think of him as a coaching candidate?
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37133 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

Open up the checkbook for Wright and Marshall

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:19 pm to
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Randy Bennett, St Mary’s 54 / 328-148


OP Woodman: what makes you suggest this is even remotely possible?



Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28235 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:56 am to
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Alt26, I've been beating the Dana Ford drum. What do you think of him as a coaching candidate?


To be honest, I don't know much about him. Gregg Marshall obviously likes him and he had an incredible turnaround at TSU from year 1 to year 2. I think he could recruit very well in the SEC. His teams look like they play with a "defense first" mentality. Probably not a guy that should be at the top of the list, but someone worth paying attention to as the year goes on. It will be interesting to see if last year was just a fluke, or if he's really got something going at TSU.
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