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Let's examine what coach O has done to earn the job
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:12 am
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:12 am
1. He likely will be 6-1 as HC.
Ok great. What coaches WOULD NOT be 6-1 with this loaded roster? Which teams is he beating that he shouldnt beat?
2. He is a great recruiter
So was Les Miles. So is ANY coach that comes here. LSU is now an elite program in a state with 0 other major programs.
3. He's a Louisiana boy!
Who cares? We don't owe him anything... HE DIDNT GRADUATE FROM LSU. Do you think Bama, Ohio State, USC, michigan, etc. hires a coach because he's from the area? This is the dumbest reason to hire a HC
4. He did well at USC!
No he did average at USC considering that roster. They were smart enough not to hire him as HC
Ok great. What coaches WOULD NOT be 6-1 with this loaded roster? Which teams is he beating that he shouldnt beat?
2. He is a great recruiter
So was Les Miles. So is ANY coach that comes here. LSU is now an elite program in a state with 0 other major programs.
3. He's a Louisiana boy!
Who cares? We don't owe him anything... HE DIDNT GRADUATE FROM LSU. Do you think Bama, Ohio State, USC, michigan, etc. hires a coach because he's from the area? This is the dumbest reason to hire a HC
4. He did well at USC!
No he did average at USC considering that roster. They were smart enough not to hire him as HC
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:14 am to GermantownTiger
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What coaches WOULD NOT be 6-1 with this loaded roster?
Miles
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:15 am to GermantownTiger
The ones you're trying to convince will not be convinced. This topic and this is exact frame of thought have been posted here hundreds of times already.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:15 am to GermantownTiger
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Do you think Bama, Ohio State, USC, michigan, etc. hires a coach because he's from the area?
Not a great example.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:16 am to GermantownTiger
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No he did average at USC considering that roster.
That roster was horrible. A probation roster that wasn't close to being loaded. With that said I don't believe he can sustain a program. he comes in, fresh air and all but not sure he's a long term guy but what he did at SC was remarkable considering he had limited numbers to work with.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:16 am to GermantownTiger
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Let's examine what coach O has done to earn the job
Two things:
1) Jack
2) shite
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:16 am to GermantownTiger
jmo but i think LSU would have only 1 loss if O coached the whole season. i don't want O as coach btw.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:17 am to GermantownTiger
He likely will go 6-1 and has done a lot to right a ship that seemed to be sinking. But, outside of Arkansas, will any of those wins really be considered quality wins?
Florida is a MASH unit and A&M is without their starting QB, so those SHOULD be wins
But the offensive output, or lack of, against Bama rest on his shoulders. Guice touched the ball twice?
He's done a great job and deserves a bonus and a pat on the back, but not the full time job.
1. Jimbo 2. Herman 3. I'll get back to you
Florida is a MASH unit and A&M is without their starting QB, so those SHOULD be wins
But the offensive output, or lack of, against Bama rest on his shoulders. Guice touched the ball twice?
He's done a great job and deserves a bonus and a pat on the back, but not the full time job.
1. Jimbo 2. Herman 3. I'll get back to you
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:17 am to GermantownTiger
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2. He is a great recruiter
So was Les Miles.
this is true
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So is ANY coach that comes here
this is not. You do have to work at recruiting, no program, even LSU "recruits" it self.
That said, recruiting isn't and hasn't been the problem here, it's coaching. Bringing in a DL coach with and awful record as a HC doesn't not appear to address the issue.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:25 am to GermantownTiger
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Ok great. What coaches WOULD NOT be 6-1 with this loaded roster? Which teams is he beating that he shouldnt beat?
You are unfair right there because even the poster in this board (not to mention national experts) said it was extremely difficult to have that record given the schedule ahead of him when he took over.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:25 am to GermantownTiger
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Ok great. What coaches WOULD NOT be 6-1 with this loaded roster? Which teams is he beating that he shouldnt beat?
Les Miles, for one.
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So was Les Miles. So is ANY coach that comes here. LSU is now an elite program in a state with 0 other major programs.
Texas and UF learned the hard way that programs do no recruit themselves.
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No he did average at USC considering that roster. They were smart enough not to hire him as HC
He went 6-2 with a roster depleted after NCAA sanctions. USC wishes they would have hired him. Instead they went with te more polished coach, who turned out to be a raging drunk.
FWIW I want fisher and you hire him 10/10 over Orgeron. But after that, I'd take O. Over a lot of the other candidates being tossed around.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:26 am to TouchdownTony
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That roster was horrible. A probation roster that wasn't close to being loaded.
Class recruiting rankings under Lane Kiffin:
2010 - #1
2011 - #4
2012 - #8
2013 - #13
Scholarship reductions were starting to hurt them in 2012, but there was talent on the roster.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:28 am to logjamming
Every name that is being floated around is more qualified than O
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:28 am to TouchdownTony
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what he did at SC was remarkable considering he had limited numbers to work with.
1-3 against teams with a winning record.
i don't think you know what remarkable means
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:29 am to CalTiger53
That was because most considered the SEC to still be having a average SEC year. This is not the case. The SEC is down. We play a depleted Florida team that shouldnt be in the top 25 and a Texas a&m team without their starting QB
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 11:43 am
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:31 am to Wayne Campbell
I don't think people who are saying USC was talent depleted followed recruiting. Kiffin may not be a great head coach but he gamed the NCAA sanctions brilliantly.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:41 am to 1999
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jmo but i think LSU would have only 1 loss if O coached the whole season. i don't want O as coach btw.
This
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:42 am to GermantownTiger
Didn't I see this exact thread every hour for the last month?
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:42 am to GermantownTiger
What is ummm "Not a damn thing."
Posted on 11/17/16 at 11:44 am to GermantownTiger
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Let's examine what coach O has done to earn the job by GermantownTiger
Nothing
Beating teams you're supposed to destroy isn't impressive. It's what should have been happening for the last decade.
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