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Kalani Sitake to BYU
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:03 am
Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:03 am
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He was a great DC for Utah. Pretty risky HC hire, but it's not like BYU has a huge pool to choose from.
He was a great DC for Utah. Pretty risky HC hire, but it's not like BYU has a huge pool to choose from.
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 10:27 am to TDawg1313
BYU's chances to get into a Power 5 conference got punched in the dick.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 12:54 pm to cardboardboxer
quote:Why?
BYU's chances to get into a Power 5 conference got punched in the dick.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 2:22 pm to cardboardboxer
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BYU's chances to get into a Power 5 conference got punched in the dick.
Why?
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:34 pm to TDawg1313
Is he the current Utah DC? That's kind of awkward.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:28 pm to BayouBengals03
He was Oregon State's DC.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:16 pm to lsusportsman2
Because they aren't willing to spend what it takes to keep up. Too many programs are willing.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:20 am to VerlanderBEAST
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BYU's chances to get into a Power 5 conference got punched in the dick.
Why?
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it's not like BYU has a huge pool to choose from.
With BYU requiring their HC to be a LDS member, Power 5 conferences will see BYU as a future weak link. Besides, they won't bring a huge media market to the table. Good luck to Coach Sitake, maybe he can solidify their coaching and improve their chances.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 2:10 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Besides, they won't bring a huge media market to the table.
They bring the same one Utah did to the Pac-12 plus a bunch more Mormons.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 8:42 am to Coeur du Tigre
BYU has been competitive for 40 years. Certainly more competitive than 3/4 of the schools in P5 leagues. That's not an issue. They also bring a lot of eyeballs.
They are a pain in the arse to deal with and their geography will expand a conference footprint. They also aren't a major research institution (that matters to every conference except the Big 12, when Texas is picking playmates).
They are a pain in the arse to deal with and their geography will expand a conference footprint. They also aren't a major research institution (that matters to every conference except the Big 12, when Texas is picking playmates).
This post was edited on 12/20/15 at 8:44 am
Posted on 12/20/15 at 12:13 pm to BayouBengals03
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Is he the current Utah DC? That's kind of awkward.
He played for BYU I believe.
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:04 pm to RedFoxx
Yes. He was a fullback for BYU in the 90s.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 1:10 am to saintsfan22
quote:Exactly. Like I said, they won't bring a huge media market to the table.
They bring the same one Utah did to the Pac-12 plus a bunch more Mormons.
SLC has the #33 media market in the US, behind such giants as Hartford-New Haven, Nashville and Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto. And the home team UofU commands much of SLC. Even more importantly, CFB advertisers won't be thrilled about an LDS target audience. Think Budweiser.
There are good reasons they have yet to be invited to a Power 5 conference.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 9:41 am to RedFoxx
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He played for BYU I believe.
Yup.
Posted on 12/21/15 at 12:35 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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Exactly. Like I said, they won't bring a huge media market to the table.
SLC has the #33 media market in the US, behind such giants as Hartford-New Haven, Nashville and Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto. And the home team UofU commands much of SLC. Even more importantly, CFB advertisers won't be thrilled about an LDS target audience. Think Budweiser.
There are good reasons they have yet to be invited to a Power 5 conference.
You're wrong.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 1:37 am to saintsfan22
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Exactly. Like I said, they won't bring a huge media market to the table.
SLC has the #33 media market in the US, behind such giants as Hartford-New Haven, Nashville and Sacramento-Stockton-Modesto. And the home team UofU commands much of SLC. Even more importantly, CFB advertisers won't be thrilled about an LDS target audience. Think Budweiser.
There are good reasons they have yet to be invited to a Power 5 conference.
You're wrong
No, being wrong would imply I'm giving an opinion. I'm not doing that, I'm just listing facts. Such as the fact that no Power 5 conference has offered BYU. Unless you think that's wrong too.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:09 am to Coeur du Tigre
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No, being wrong would imply I'm giving an opinion. I'm not doing that, I'm just listing facts
This is an opinion
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With BYU requiring their HC to be a LDS member, Power 5 conferences will see BYU as a future weak link. Besides, they won't bring a huge media market to the table.
The last sentence of that opinion is wrong since the same media market helped Utah get in the Pac-12.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 7:22 am to saintsfan22
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With BYU requiring their HC to be a LDS member, Power 5 conferences will see BYU as a future weak link. Besides, they won't bring a huge media market to the table.
The last sentence of that opinion is wrong since the same media market helped Utah get in the Pac-12.
These are facts, not opinions. It is not an opinion that the pool of LDS CFB coaches capable of running the BYU program is tiny compared to those coaches that are non-LDS. This is a distinct disadvantage for BYU's competitiveness and therefore to any conference to which they belong.
Secondly, the SLC market is only 33rd in the country and is shared with the home team UofU. Facts, not opinion. The Pac12 has already captured this market, so they have no need for BYU. The Big12 or a smaller conference may be a fit but they must overcome the negatives of the coaching pool and the advertiser's resistance. After all, money talks. Or is that just my opinion?
But go ahead, be our guest and tell us that every FBS conference in the country is also wrong by not offering BYU membership. After all, that's just an opinion.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 9:35 am to Coeur du Tigre
The biggest hurdle to BYU getting offered by the P5 is their unwillingness to play any athletic events on Sundays.
They are THE university of a church with 15 million members, an enrollment of 30k, and their own TV network. Not to mention they generally always field competitive teams, even with their religious restrictions.
Throwing out arguments like "advertising" and "market" doesn't mean they hurt BYU. They wouldn't have voluntarily gone independent in football during the age of conference expansion if they were so reliant on those things.
They are THE university of a church with 15 million members, an enrollment of 30k, and their own TV network. Not to mention they generally always field competitive teams, even with their religious restrictions.
Throwing out arguments like "advertising" and "market" doesn't mean they hurt BYU. They wouldn't have voluntarily gone independent in football during the age of conference expansion if they were so reliant on those things.
Posted on 12/22/15 at 10:11 am to nvasil1
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Throwing out arguments like "advertising" and "market" doesn't mean they hurt BYU. They wouldn't have voluntarily gone independent in football during the age of conference expansion if they were so reliant on those things.
Good point. BYU is more financially independent than many schools and thus the lack of conference income is not as serious.
However, I'm looking at the situation from the standpoint of the conferences in regards to what BYU would bring to the table, positive and negative. The recent experience of the Big 10 with Rutgers has given everyone pause to reconsider.
I would like to see them in the Big 12 at some point. The game at Texas recently seemed to be a taste of what could be.
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