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"IF" Raymond leaves, we need to get Zook asap

Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:22 pm
Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
4362 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:22 pm
I definitely do not want to lose Raymond, but we know it will eventually happen whether its this year or in future. Zook was a hell of a DC but also great DB coach for many years in NFL and various colleges.

I understand we had success with Ron Cooper as DB coach, but I remember reading that many LSU db's said that Raymond coached alot more technique compared to Cooper.

In my opinion, its really hard to find a top notch coach who is also one hell of a recruiter. Zook actually fits in that category.
Posted by TheOper8er
United States
Member since Dec 2016
46 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:24 pm to
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IF Raymond leaves


Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

I understand we had success with Ron Cooper as DB coach, but I remember reading that many LSU db's said that Raymond coached alot more technique compared to Cooper.



Our DBs were better under Cooper than they've been under Raymond, IMO
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Our DBs were better under Cooper than they've been under Raymond, IMO


agree
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70079 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:28 pm to
But our expense reports have been more truth filled since Raymond has been here.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73436 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:28 pm to
Why is this rumor continuing to be regurgitated?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:28 pm to
Our DB recruiting under Raymond has been GOAT level.

Cooper lied on expense reports and was a bad recruiter. We aren't replacing our best recruiter, with a bad one. Period.

Posted by YoungsvilleTiger210
Youngsville
Member since Oct 2015
214 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:29 pm to
Raymond isn't going anywhere. Where is all this junk coming from? Shea already said that much with his sauces. All this junk to negative recruit against us. Just stop it.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73436 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:31 pm to
The gumps started this crap to try and flip Stevens, and LSU fans just keep repeating it like automatons.
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 2:32 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:32 pm to
I RA'd
Posted by tconle2
Member since Sep 2011
4104 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:34 pm to
Cooper>Raymond

Craig amd Raymond are great recruiters, but there are better positional coaches.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

Raymond isn't going anywhere. Where is all this junk coming from? Shea already said that much with his sauces. All this junk to negative recruit against us. Just stop it.


If a good DC job comes calling, he'll be gone.. I don't know if that happens, but it's still a possiblity.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26637 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:42 pm to
Raymond would have to take a CUSA level DC job at best. He might do it, but that's what it would be. He's not getting a P5 or even an AAC job as a DC at this point.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83516 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

The gumps started this crap to try and flip Stevens, and LSU fans just keep repeating it like automatons.


well no

tigerbaitlawyer started it saying that O is fighting to keep Raymond because Raymond is getting a lot of interest

Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73436 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:49 pm to
Here or on 247?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83516 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20373 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Our DBs were better under Cooper than they've been under Raymond, IMO

agree
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:59 pm to
Our DBs were better under Cooper than they've been under Raymond, IMO

Our d line was better when cooper was here. Didn't have to cover as long. Cooper didn't recruit. You don't want him.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:07 pm to
Raymond wants to be a DC.. It's not if its when we lose him. Hopefully he will stay another year or two under Aranda before he makes the jump. Someone will give him a shot for sure
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73436 posts
Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:12 pm to
The rumors were being spread on BOL way before that.
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