Explain the Love 4 Herman...

I hear you bio...

I would prefer someone with at least another year or two as a HBC, so much more data to help make a decision.

In a few years we could be kicking ourselves either way (for not getting him or getting him and he ends up "Curley" ing us).

As you said, time will tell.

first, let me say i'm all for getting jimbo or herman. i also like fedora and mullen.

i like herman as my top choice because he has a great pedigree as a playcaller and coordinator. he's a great gameday coach, his players never quit. his one year at houston, to me, is just validation from what i suspected. i thought sc shoulda hired him instead of sark last year.

his philosophy on team, brotherhood and togetherness aren't just catch phrases for the media or some intangible idea. he gets what being a team is all about. he genuinely understands the dynamic of playing for one another.

i think he is THE complete package as a head coach. winner, strategist, tactician, leader, salesman and is highly respected and loved by his players. have you watched the way houston plays football, or the way the osu offense played last year? those fellas ball completely out for this guy. i think he genuinely cares for them and they know he isn't full of shite.

when has nick saban ever brought in a coordinator from a team that beat them because he couldn't figure it out? much less with a third string qb making his 2nd or 3rd start.

when i look at herman, there is the big unknown of long term consistency. i just see this guys floor (the worst he could do here) as still being pretty high. better than what miles has given us the last 3 years (in fairness, i think miles is starting to get worn out and is all the more controlling because of it). i think herman's ceiling is multiple national championships, and i think it's someone who could stay here for a long arse time.

I posted this in another thread:

FWIW:

I work in HS athletics (FB) in Texas for the past 15 years. Have had athletes under my supervision sign with every major conference and most major programs in Texas and the SEC, so I have seen my fair share of college coaches through my office (including the guy in Tuscaloosa). Without a doubt, Tom Herman is my favorite college coach of all time. This goes back to his time at Rice and Iowa State, before he made it big. He is hands down the best at relating to kids, their parents, their coaches, their teachers, etc. He just happens to be a savant when it comes to football offense.

Quick Cool Story Bro: This summer some colleagues and I were touring UH athletic facilities. Our tour guide works in the FB office and walked us into a staff meeting Herman and his crew were in the middle of having. Coach Herman instantly remembered me, gave me dab on the back and proceeded to talk to me for 20 minutes, most of which he was asking about my school, our principal (who he remembered by name and alma-mater), and some of my former kids he recruited and some he signed; all this while his staff waited. All of it genuine. The guy will be one of the greats, hope he makes his mark wearing that yella shirt.

One more point about everyone that thinks we need to wait to find a more seasoned coach....

Simple fact is, CFB landscape has a year shelf life now. Whatever was popular, unpopular, good, bad, or mediocre, can change in a year. Case in point, 3-4 years ago UT and TAMU got pick of the litter in Texas for recruits. Around 2-3 years ago that changed and now Baylor and TCU have been signing better classes. Within one year, Herman has made UH a destination school, most of my current seniors would much rather get recruited to be a Coog rather than a Longhorn (i know that sounds crazy to anyone older than 23, but its the truth). We live in an instant communication age, and kids want whats hot now (not what we, our parents, or our grandparents thought was hot).

Comparing Herman to Curley is like comparing apples to onions, it ain't even close. I've dealt with College coaches for over 15 years and Tom Herman is closer to Nick Saban 2.0 (blasphemous I know) than anyone else I have dealt with. Wait your year to hire a "proven " commodity and watch Herman build a powerhouse wherever he lands.

Main difference between him and Hallman is Curly had the IQ of a rock and Herman's IQ is off the charts smarts.

there are typically 2 paths to being a HC in major CFB

you either get promoted from a coordinator position from a major program or establish success at a small school

there are more from the latter performing at elite levels (meyer, b kelly, etc), but there are some brady hokes, too

i think the biggest defining trait difference for success is raw intelligence and innovation, which are why fuente and herman are so valued right now. you get that more from the small school route than a guy like miles or fedora, who went to mid-sized schools and had some success. when they become more entrenched they develop a pattern of running a program and are less likely to adapt and innovate.

I think he is a good coach, HOWEVER, he has only had one year as a head coach in a very weak conference. If I was an AD at any big time power 5 school I would have to see at least one more year. There's just to much risk in giving him the job after only one year as a HC. Prime example would be McElwain. Everyone knew he would be a HC at some point in his career. Giving him a big program, particularly one in the SEC, to early could've been catastrophic for him. Look at Muschamp for that example. Just my opinion and only time will tell with Herman.

Fuente scares me... I could see him going to Hoke route

i can get behind herman just because it would bring something new and inject a completely different perspective

it may fail, but it's a sign that we're willing to try to adapt

plus he has roots in TX and a good reputation there, which is good for our recruiting.

no matter what, whomever coaches LSU next year is going to have a super-talented offense and a very sketchy defense