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Anyone with insight into Aranda's desires to be a HC?

Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:10 pm
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:10 pm
Does he aspire to be a HC some day or is he in the Bud Foster/Chavis mold?

Based on what I've read from him, seen from him, etc., I think you do whatever it takes to keep him, as in, make it mandatory that a new coach retains him.

I'd rather Aranda as HC than someone like Fedora, Fleck, or any of the second tier guys.

Aranda with a top shelf OC could potentially dominate college football for the next decade.

He's young, smart, and ADAPTS his scheme to his players.

Losing this guy could come back to haunt LSU and I think despite the great job O is doing, it's more critical to keep Aranda.

We'll learn a lot after Bama and the rest of the season but if LSU's D can maintain it's current pace, you do everything to keep this guy.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112204 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:11 pm to
If he didn't have a desire to be a HC, he wouldn't have come to LSU for the exposure
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:16 pm to
you're probably right but he got a massive bump in pay so it's possible it was just that
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:17 pm to
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Anyone with insight into Aranda's desires to be a HC?


You are seriously asking this on the Tiger Rant? Ha ha Ha

But honestly just about everybody here knows that now after that big news release yesterday. Were you one of the few that missed it?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112204 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

you're probably right but he got a massive bump in pay so it's possible it was just that


He could've gotten that money or at least comparable money in a couple places that weren't as dysfunctional as LSU was when he came on board and could be a much more long term guarantee than LSU
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:30 pm to
Aranda MIGHT make a good head coach one day but i don't think he is ready to make that jump to lead a program like LSU. I would take Orgeron over Aranda as head coach if those were my two choices.
Posted by Dwayne Johnson
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2016
48 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:33 pm to

HE IS A COACH

HE DESIRES TO BE A HEAD COACH ....


THAT SIMPLE
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98127 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:42 pm to
Last night Gordy said he'd be shocked if Aranda wasn't a HC somewhere by 2018. So the emphasis on holding on to him is probably misplaced.
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:43 pm to
Aranda may have that Purdue job sewn up
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112204 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:46 pm to
He can hold out another year and get much better than the Purdue job.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:48 pm to
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Last night Gordy said he'd be shocked if Aranda wasn't a HC somewhere by 2018. So the emphasis on holding on to him is probably misplaced.


The idea that we're just going to have these amazing coordinators and hold onto them for very long is a pipe dream Anyone worth anything is going to get their own gig.

That's why you actually HIRE the great mind if you have one. I'm warming up to the idea of Aranda as HC if the other candidates don't work out.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:50 pm to
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He could've gotten that money or at least comparable money

He was making $500k at Wisky. Haven't seen the 2016 numbers but there were only 8 assistants in all of CFB who were paid over $1m in 2015.

His base at LSU is $1.3m plus y'all gave him a $200k sign on bonus. And if he's gone after this year, y'all owe him $4m for one season. No one was going to match that.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112204 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 12:51 pm to
It is interesting that people are like "LSU ISNT HIRING A COORDINATOR!!!" While they root for a DLine coach to get the job.

I'd much rather take the risk on Aranda or Fleck than O
Posted by Hmerly
Member since May 2008
1337 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:27 pm to
That's why you hire a brilliant mind, no matter the experience rather than a CEO type, with a not so brilliant mind and hope for good coordinators that don't stay long...
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6530 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:36 pm to
Agree. The nightmare scenario is that LSU loses to Bama but wins the rest of the games, primarily because of Aranda's D, O is hired, then Aranda leaves.

Then we're fricked.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23006 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

It is interesting that people are like "LSU ISNT HIRING A COORDINATOR!!!" While they root for a DLine coach to get the job.

I'd much rather take the risk on Aranda or Fleck than O


Um ok? lol

So you'd take a chance on someone who has never been a head coach over someone who has a 9-2 record as a head coach in his last 11 games?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23006 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Agree. The nightmare scenario is that LSU loses to Bama but wins the rest of the games, primarily because of Aranda's D, O is hired, then Aranda leaves.

Then we're fricked.


WTF? We are averaging over 500 yards a game and over 40 pts a game since O took over.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

So you'd take a chance on someone who has never been a head coach over someone who has a 9-2 record as a head coach in his last 11 games?


I'll borrow a line from Trump; O has experience, but it's mostly bad experience. Coach O has some interim wins but the stink of 10-25 doesn't wash away that easily. That's why he hasn't gotten a HC yet.

Yeah Aranda hasn't been a HC but his knowledge on defensive football theory is well documented and highly respected amongst his peers. Can't say the same about Coach O.

If I had to choose one and lose the other, I take Aranda. Easy choice. If O gets the job, Aranda isn't hanging around much longer. What does O do if we're not able to get another top defensive mind?
This post was edited on 10/27/16 at 1:50 pm
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6530 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:50 pm to
O vs Aranda

O = Great recruiter, uniter, motivator, politcally and media savvy, oversees the big picture but no real experience out-scheming opponents

Aranda = Great tactician. Proven to be an elite coordinator that should only get better as pieces are recruited to fit his system. Unproven as a program manager.

To me this is like comparing Dabo Swinney/Les Miles/Mack Brown type coach vs a Jimbo/Kelly/Saban type.

With the first type, you are constantly searching for great coordinators because you need two of them. With the second, you know the HC is basically controlling one side of the ball.

The more I think about it, the more I think if they don't get Herman/Fisher or someone at that level, they should roll with Aranda.

O is a great recruiter but imo he's easier to replace than a true defensive genius like Aranda.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6530 posts
Posted on 10/27/16 at 1:51 pm to
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What does O do if we're not able to get another top defensive mind?



That's it in a nutshell. What Coach O did post Miles has been great but kinda common sense.

What Aranda is doing is elite.
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