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re: Alexander steps into process

Posted on 11/30/15 at 7:51 am to
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
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Posted on 11/30/15 at 7:51 am to
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Alleva had no plan B.


I believe this 100%. it was fisher or bust... and he busted
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14683 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:18 am to
It appears that Alexander may have axed the buyout plan last Wednesday......so maybe we never even got very far with Jimbo after all.

quote:

UPDATE: Per a follow-up conversation with a source close to the athletic program, one change to make – it wasn’t Saturday morning when Alexander tubed the buyout of Miles; it was Wednesday. But for the same reason.

We’re also told that Alleva actually told Miles his job was no longer in jeopardy after Alexander’s scuppering of the buyout, but the coach didn’t believe him. Which explains the rather strange and chaotic circumstance whereby Miles implied to his Friday Gridiron Club luncheon guests that he was on his way out and the athletic department had to hastily deny reports which surfaced to that effect out of that meeting.


(Updated) Notes on a F. King Debacle
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14683 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:23 am to
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Alleva had no plan B. He didn't have the money for a buyout without Jimbo. And, he knew he didn't have other candidates even lined up. How he allowed the Jimbo plan to go forward publicly with no plan B is where he made his unforgivable mistake.



Alleva is in over his head. I think we are too quick to pile on Alexander, but he had to clean up Alleva's mess. He allowed leaks to be sprung everywhere, had no backup plan. It seems that the buyout money could very well have been earmarked only for Jimbo as replacement. Boosters had too much control yet exhibited lack of control at once, one could argue.
This post was edited on 11/30/15 at 8:24 am
Posted by hillcountrywanderer
Buda, TX
Member since Jul 2014
529 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:24 am to
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Is LSU a university?
I doubt even half of this went to school here.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77550 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:37 am to
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LINK


First time reading this. A little pissed, I must say.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11139 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:44 am to
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the amount of money involved, it did not align very well with his on-going (and true) narrative that the University was in dire need of additional funding


People need to understand that all the new construction and improvements in and around LSU are DIRECTLY related to the success LSU football has had in the last 15 years.
Investing into keeping the football program top tier should be a priority, because thats what brings in the bucks for other things.
Posted by Dr. 3
Member since Mar 2005
11353 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:51 am to
If he was worried about money and perception...how did that change from 2-3 weeks ago? He knew it cost 15 million to get rid of Les and that he was going have to pony up serious cash for a candidate like Fisher.

It makes no sense that perception of a tremendous amount money won the day at the very end.
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27720 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:55 am to
Like I said, guy should be fired. Sports have nothing to do with politics. He should be gone and then the new President can fire Alleva. Alleva has no power now. What a joke.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
66885 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:56 am to
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quote:
UPDATE: Per a follow-up conversation with a source close to the athletic program, one change to make – it wasn’t Saturday morning when Alexander tubed the buyout of Miles; it was Wednesday. But for the same reason.

We’re also told that Alleva actually told Miles his job was no longer in jeopardy after Alexander’s scuppering of the buyout, but the coach didn’t believe him. Which explains the rather strange and chaotic circumstance whereby Miles implied to his Friday Gridiron Club luncheon guests that he was on his way out and the athletic department had to hastily deny reports which surfaced to that effect out of that meeting.


Why wouldn't Alleva publicly back the coach after that happened if this is true. It doesn't make sense.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11139 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:56 am to
I think it was more that somebody just had to step in and make a decision just to stop the cluster it was becoming. they were afraid of looking bad with all the support being shown to Miles, FSU counter-offering, etc.
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14683 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:05 am to
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Why wouldn't Alleva publicly back the coach after that happened if this is true. It doesn't make sense.



Probably the same reason why Alexander had to get involved after the game.

Let's assume for a moment that McKay is right. Alleva is an image guy and probably still would have tried to get Jimbo on board to avoid looking like the patsy. Truthfully, I think Alleva hung himself out to dry and this was mostly his doing. He is just in way over his head and doesn't know how to conduct business properly. UGA is showing him how.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:55 am to
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Like I said, guy should be fired. Sports have nothing to do with politics. He should be gone and then the new President can fire Alleva. Alleva has no power now. What a joke.


King will not be fired. I believe he just aligned himself perfectly with our newly elected Governor. No way he's out, even though he should be. Politics are fricking bullshite
Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:05 am to
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and how much money has academics put into athletics?

I'll patiently await your response.

TAF has put 8 million annually into academics.



Without academics, LSU wouldn't have scholarships to offer to athletes to come to LSU where they can go to school part time. Since when does athletics come before academics? Tuition has been raised through the roof for undergrads, while the professor to student ratio is one of the highest in the SEC. So you are asking students to pay higher tuition for a mediocre education. Why not just have LSU as a football school where students come there to learn to play football and nothing else, and demote the university to a community college status.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28499 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:37 am to
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Without academics, LSU wouldn't have scholarships to offer to athletes to come to LSU where they can go to school part time. Since when does athletics come before academics? Tuition has been raised through the roof for undergrads, while the professor to student ratio is one of the highest in the SEC. So you are asking students to pay higher tuition for a mediocre education. Why not just have LSU as a football school where students come there to learn to play football and nothing else, and demote the university to a community college status.


Why are you against private citizens spending their own money how they see fit? None of what you just mentioned has anything to do with the buyout, since it was coming straight out of some guys trust fund.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11067 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:40 am to
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"frick we could have had Tom Herman"


Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11067 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:43 am to
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while the professor to student ratio is one of the highest in the SEC.


I think you mean lowest
Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:06 am to
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I think you mean lowest



1 professor to 23 students. Highest ratio in the SEC.

LINK
Posted by uptownsage
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2014
2156 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:06 am to
quote:

I think you mean lowest



1 professor to 23 students. Highest ratio in the SEC.

LINK
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166118 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 11:11 am to
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i'd wager that 90% of the public doesn't understand that point.


I'd wager that they choose not to understand that point.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72458 posts
Posted on 11/30/15 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Why are you against private citizens spending their own money how they see fit? None of what you just mentioned has anything to do with the buyout, since it was coming straight out of some guys trust fund.



that guy obviously doesn't get it. Don't waste anymore time on him.
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