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1 And Done OC
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:50 pm
I like Kiffin as an OC but if he's only going to be here for a year why even bother? Seems counterproductive to install a new offense only to have to reinvent the wheel one year later.
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:52 pm to KyrieElaison
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if he's only going to be here for a year why even bother?
Etling, Guice, probably Chark and Dupre. That's why.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:55 pm to KyrieElaison
just keep ensminger, he'll be here for life
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:57 pm to The Egg
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just keep ensminger, he'll be here for life
this is such a lazy argument. there are really good hires out there that will be here 3+ years. Helfrich, Gilbert, Baby Briles.
Kiffin and Riley are both ready to be HCs, 2 years max out of either.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 12:58 pm to KyrieElaison
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Seems counterproductive
Winning is counter productive?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:01 pm to philter
Need a,plan
The hire needs to right...
Lane is short term...
Based on that post earlier by Tiger lawyer it seems O is really hoping for lane to come.. but that doesn't sound likely I think we need to look at art briles...
The hire needs to right...
Lane is short term...
Based on that post earlier by Tiger lawyer it seems O is really hoping for lane to come.. but that doesn't sound likely I think we need to look at art briles...
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:01 pm to philter
Not saying hire Ensminger just don't hire Kiffin. There are other candidates equally as qualified who would stay longer and we wouldn't have to go through this again next year.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:02 pm to KyrieElaison
Kiffin isn't my first choice but this is a strange argument. If lsu OC is the springboard to the HC job he really wants, then it's because he was really successful and made LSU offensively very good.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:07 pm to KyrieElaison
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but if he's only going to be here for a year why even bother?
I have the same thought. I do not doubt the ability of Kiffin as an OC but worry about his commitment level. Even if Kiffin ends up with taking the OC position at LSU, the situation going on right now will repeat every year after regular season. It certainly is a distraction to the team and the recruits may be worried about uncertainty at OC position.
It is less a problem if the head coach himself is an offensive guru because he can hire young and upcoming coach and have inputs on offense. However in our case the head coach knows little to none about offense and extremely depends on a competent OC to run it on his own, thus the better choice would be a coach that will not jump on the first head coach opening, just like Aranda.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:10 pm to jcole4lsu
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this is such a lazy argument
pretty sure that was sarcasm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:17 pm to Topwater Trout
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pretty sure that was sarcasm
coming from egg, im sure of it too. but a mind-numbing amount of people create that type of argument in a serious manner. mostly the same people who championed O.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 1:42 pm to The Egg
I don't think many others caught the sarcasm, but I did
ETA in regards to OP:
I think the only thing that scares me about 1 and done OCs is becoming a revolving door. I want Kiffin, he's an a-hole, but at least he'd be our a-hole rather than ripping us a new a-hole every year. I know he'll be gone in a year or two, but at least we'd be badass for that year or two. The problem comes after Kiffin. Eventually, changing offenses every few years is going to catch up to the program and it's going to become increasingly more difficult to be successful on that side of the ball. Stability is an important thing in a football office.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:06 pm to KyrieElaison
I imagine Coach O will be one and done. Two and done max.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:11 pm to BabyTac
I'm going to laugh when O actually succeeds at LSU.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:12 pm to KyrieElaison
Wish Saban thought this way instead of taking one year at a time. How many OCs they been through?
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:14 pm to tiogatiger19
He's been thought a lot but I don't think any 1 and done coaches. Most seem to have a 2-3 year tenure.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:19 pm to KyrieElaison
Point being, no OC or DC is guaranteed to be anywhere for more than a year. Aranda could have been gone this year. So we should hire shite coordinators nobody would try to hire?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:48 pm to KyrieElaison
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Seems counterproductive to install a new offense only to have to reinvent the wheel one year later.
I agree, we don't need to go after the big names. Why not just get the coach that wants to be here the most? Ensminger should get just as much credit as Coach O does.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:49 pm to tiogatiger19
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So we should hire shite coordinators nobody would try to hire?
case and point
Posted on 12/7/16 at 2:53 pm to ApexTiger
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Need a,plan
The hire needs to right..
Oh yea, NOW the AD decides to take their time, form a plan, and make the right hire.
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