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Did Terry Brooks rip off J.R.R. Tolkien with his Shannara books?
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:30 pm
I enjoyed both, and yes I do see where he borrowed or in the words of SNAP "sampled", but both were enjoyable, imo.
This post was edited on 5/21/17 at 4:37 pm
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Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:37 pm to DoUrden
I never read LotR as a kid, but I did read the first few Shannara books. I very much dug them back in the day.
Panamon Creel...was that his name...is still a favorite character of mine.
Panamon Creel...was that his name...is still a favorite character of mine.
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:41 pm to DanglingFury
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Panamon Creel...was that his name
That was his name, captain pike if you will after he lost his hand.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:55 pm to DoUrden
I vaguely remember reading some of these in middle school. Got monster points in Accelerated Reader.
Par and Coll were the main characters in the one's I read. And maybe their uncle who lost an arm or something too??
Par and Coll were the main characters in the one's I read. And maybe their uncle who lost an arm or something too??
Posted on 12/14/11 at 6:16 am to DoUrden
You could say this about every fantasy book since Tolkien. 
I read the first 6 when i was younger and now I think there are about 600 of them. Guess he needed to get paid.
I'm sure Tolkien probably borrowed some things from popular folklore.
I wouldn't say he ripped off Tolkien anymore than any other fantasy writer.
I read the first 6 when i was younger and now I think there are about 600 of them.
Guess he needed to get paid. I'm sure Tolkien probably borrowed some things from popular folklore.
I wouldn't say he ripped off Tolkien anymore than any other fantasy writer.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:03 am to TigerMyth36
The original Shanarra book was heavily influenced by Tolkien and Brooks even credits that in his comments.
Brooks is a much easier read i think, and I think he has expanded his world too far away from the original stories, but i guess he gets a pass on that since the stories span centuries.
The "genesis" series where he is combining the shanarra universe and his Knight of the Word stories has been very good as well.
Brooks is a much easier read i think, and I think he has expanded his world too far away from the original stories, but i guess he gets a pass on that since the stories span centuries.
The "genesis" series where he is combining the shanarra universe and his Knight of the Word stories has been very good as well.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 7:11 am to Chris4x4gill2
I read the first book plus the first series that was set a few centuries later. They were decent reads, especially in middle school.
I also remember the point and click adventure game. I played that shite for days.
LINK
I also remember the point and click adventure game. I played that shite for days.
LINK
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:22 am to TigerMyth36
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You could say this about every fantasy book since Tolkien
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:36 am to TigerMyth36
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You could say this about every fantasy book since Tolkien
This. Or Tolkein via D&D.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:45 am to TigerMyth36
You can say they are all influenced but not that they are all absolute ripoffs.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:47 am to shinerfan
I would say Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series is more of a ripoff of Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 8:52 am to nino2469
I think Jordan/Goodkind is the perfect example. Jordan's Aiel were obviously influenced by Frank Herbert's Fremen but it was an influence, not a ripoff. Goodking just rewrote Wheel of Time and threw in a few bondage scenes.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 9:00 am to TigerMyth36
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You could say this about every fantasy book since Tolkien.
This.
I was partial to Dragonlance as a kid, although I did read a bit of Brooks.
Posted on 12/14/11 at 9:19 am to DoUrden
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With his Shannara books? I
All of the books? No.
The Sword of Shannara is a total rip off
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:02 pm to DoUrden
The first Shannara book was pretty blatant.
shea=frodo
flick=sam
alanon=gandalf
Balinor=aragorn
borona=sauron
sword=one ring
skull mt.=mt doom
gnomes=orcs
druids=wizards
skull bearers=nazgul
shea=frodo
flick=sam
alanon=gandalf
Balinor=aragorn
borona=sauron
sword=one ring
skull mt.=mt doom
gnomes=orcs
druids=wizards
skull bearers=nazgul
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:11 pm to DoUrden
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rip off J.R.R. Tolkien
Like rock Music, JRR Tolkien is a massive influence on a ton of writers. Plenty of people borrow from him.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 10:47 am to DoUrden
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Did Terry Brooks rip off J.R.R. Tolkien with his Shannara books?
J.R.R. Tolkien would be happy if he did, he wanted to write a base mythology and have other build upon it.
Posted on 5/24/17 at 11:51 am to TigerMyth36
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You could say this about every fantasy book since Tolkien.
Basically yeah. It's like accusing video game creators of ripping off Miyamoto. Of course they're doing it when they completely laid down the groundwork for the genre. GRRM openly admits he took a lot from Tolkien and is trying to subvert some of the genre norms he created.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 11:52 am
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