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Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:20 pm to manwich
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guess what turned them to stone...greyscale. game on, dany
Just read this from another forum lol
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In my opinion, the stone dragons at Dragonstone are real Dragons petrified by Greyscale. I was surprised that Greyscale was featured so prominently in this book. My guess is that Azor Azhai has the ability to cure greyscale (if we believe Jon is it, he could test it on the lil Princess). Maybe Greyscale is some sort of biological warfare that was created by the Citadel to counter the threat dragons posed. This could explain why we see it most prominently near Valyria and at Dragonstone. It affecting humans may only be a side effect.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:23 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Maybe Greyscale is some sort of biological warfare that was created by the Citadel to counter the threat dragons posed.
i got the Valyria and Dragonstone locations but didn't think about it being a plot by the citadel. could greyscale be why no one goes near there now? or is it really cursed?
Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:25 pm to SaintEB
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dark and full of errors
That's my brain after reading the "crackpot" theories
seriously, the damn text itself takes a certain amount of effort to follow and remember.
This thread just throws it all into utter confusion but I still love it
I should reread but damn time doesnt grow on trees
Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:44 pm to manwich
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i totally missed the connection my first time through. back then i wasn't a believer in the Red God. i kept looking for something that exposed M as a fraud
Pretty sure Mel just used the leeches to try to convince Stannis that King's blood has power or some crap like that. She saw their deaths in her fires, and made a show about burning the leeches. That's not to say she's a fraud because she does have visions and shite.
I think that's pretty much confirmed in the woiaf app, but I don't have an iphone so I can't check. Dumb app isn't available for androids
Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:49 pm to shelly
i only use the map app
so why is she so determined to get some king's blood? is she just posing as someone who can bend the will of the Red God?
so why is she so determined to get some king's blood? is she just posing as someone who can bend the will of the Red God?
Posted on 4/12/13 at 1:56 pm to manwich
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so why is she so determined to get some king's blood? is she just posing as someone who can bend the will of the Red God?
Blood seems to power the Red God magic stuff. Beric uses his blood to set his sword on fire during the duel with the Hound.
Targs: Blood and Fire
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:06 pm to manwich
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so why is she so determined to get some king's blood? is she just posing as someone who can bend the will of the Red God?
Something about waking dragons from stone? I don't think she's posing, as we see in her PoV chapter that she genuinely believes that Stannis is AA.
Her visions do come true, I just don't think she does a good job at interpreting some of them. She tells Jon that the girl escaping from a wedding is Arya. She says that the tower in her vision or w/e is Eastwatch even though she admits in her pov that she's not sure. She tries to make everyone think she's more powerful than she really is.
Posted on 4/12/13 at 2:16 pm to shelly
Anyone else considered the sword "Dawn" to really be "Lightbringer"?
hmm...
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Dawn is the ancestral greatsword of House Dayne. It is said to be made from metal forged from the heart of a fallen star. Its blade is as pale as milkglass. The sword is not necessarily passed to the lord of the house, but to the knight considered most worthy to wield it, who is then called the Sword of the Morning. The name of the Daynes' castle, Starfall, and their arms, featuring a white sword and falling star, both reference Dawn. The blade is said to be just as sharp as Valyrian steel.
Last known user of the sword is Arthur Dayne, who died in Tower of Joy. After the fight, Eddard Stark rode to Starfall to deliver Arthur's sword Dawn to Arthur's sister Ashara Dayne.
hmm...
Posted on 4/12/13 at 3:51 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
how many people got their popcorn ready for the thread titled Jojn Dies at the end 
Posted on 4/12/13 at 3:55 pm to CE Tiger
I was concerned
Posted on 4/12/13 at 3:57 pm to shelly
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She tries to make everyone think she's more powerful than she really is.
At the same time, she is one of the most, if not the most powerful person shown so far. She can make monsters to kill people wherever. She can see visions, made that sword. She can probably resurrect like Thoros too.
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 4/12/13 at 3:59 pm to CE Tiger
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how many people got their popcorn ready for the thread titled Jojn Dies at the end
I thought it was an alter trying to spoil.
I actually think something like that may happen.
(eta) the smarter non-readers are going to pick up on the comments in the thread and still get upset. book it
This post was edited on 4/12/13 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:11 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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In my opinion, the stone dragons at Dragonstone are real Dragons petrified by Greyscale. I was surprised that Greyscale was featured so prominently in this book. My guess is that Azor Azhai has the ability to cure greyscale (if we believe Jon is it, he could test it on the lil Princess). Maybe Greyscale is some sort of biological warfare that was created by the Citadel to counter the threat dragons posed. This could explain why we see it most prominently near Valyria and at Dragonstone. It affecting humans may only be a side effect.
This may be the coolest theory I've ever heard. Hugo, you are the man
Posted on 4/13/13 at 12:14 am to Carson123987
Didn't the cleric on the boat with Victarion cure his greyscale.... Or was that some other malady?
Maybe the mute woman was poisoning him....I'm trying to remember.
Maybe the mute woman was poisoning him....I'm trying to remember.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 7:54 am to Sid in Lakeshore
Crackpot theory:
Meera Reed is Jon Snow's twin sister with Lyanna and Rhaegar as the parents.
They were both born in the same year.
Meera has all the character traits of Lyanna except for stunning beauty but is nothing like Jojen.
For their protection, Ned and Howland split them up at birth.
Once Howland learned of Ned and Robert's death, he sends Meera and Jojen to Winterfell, possibly to ultimately reunite Meera/Jon and reveal their true identity.
Meera Reed is Jon Snow's twin sister with Lyanna and Rhaegar as the parents.
They were both born in the same year.
Meera has all the character traits of Lyanna except for stunning beauty but is nothing like Jojen.
For their protection, Ned and Howland split them up at birth.
Once Howland learned of Ned and Robert's death, he sends Meera and Jojen to Winterfell, possibly to ultimately reunite Meera/Jon and reveal their true identity.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:21 am to Hugo Stiglitz
i like it but how would she tie into the endgame? Martin has been building up Jon for five books. You can't have some upjumped swamp tramp swoop in with a golden ticket to ride one of the only three dragons in the world.
unless, of course, this turns out to be an ice/stone dragons vs fire dragons war
unless, of course, this turns out to be an ice/stone dragons vs fire dragons war
Posted on 4/13/13 at 8:22 am to Hugo Stiglitz
That would be crackpot for sure. Don't know that I would like that though.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 9:18 am to Methuselah
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Also, the more frequently and longer the ice dragon hung around, the longer winter would last. (it was not explicitly stated but seemed like the winters were the regular one a year variety in that story but were getting longer).
No sure if Martin would use that exact type of dragon here though. It was pretty much actually made out of ice melted into a pool after it died. so I think they'd have to adjust that to make it a little more realistic if they decide to us them in SOI&F.
Not sure how I missed your post.
So the longer an ice dragon is around, the longer the winter? Sounds kinda like the Others huh? Does the girl in the story sound like an Other to you?
As for an ice dragon in asoiaf, I wouldn't discount the possibility that they actually existed in Westeros at some point. There seems to be legends of others types of dragons like sea dragons, firewyms, and wyverns. If we see an ice dragon, I agree that Martin probably wouldn't use it exactly how it is in his children's story.
Posted on 4/13/13 at 9:21 am to Hugo Stiglitz
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For their protection, Ned and Howland split them up at birth.
Too Star Wars.
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