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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:21 pm to
yeah, we've talked about it before, I think.



eta: I've read theories that Skagos reputation for wildness may be very inflated and may very well hold Stark supporters.
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 1:22 pm
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:22 pm to
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My suspicion is that the Martells are behind Varys and Illyrio.


i don't like the idea of anyone pulling Varys' strings. it lessens the character imo

who champions them without Oberyn? the bookish guy in Sunspear?
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:30 pm to
NIH:

I've missed about 200 pages, so sorry if I rehash stuff that was talked about already.


quote:

i don't like the idea of anyone pulling Varys' strings. it lessens the character imo



Not really pulling his strings, but just a silent force behind him after the same thing.

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who champions them without Oberyn? the bookish guy in Sunspear?


Not sure. I'm sure there are a number of capable fighters in Dorne.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:30 pm to
quote:


who champions


Areo Hotah
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:37 pm to
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capable fighters
sorry i meant who has the biggest role to play

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Areo Hotah
do you think Martin really develops him into something significant? i feel like we're in LOST's final season and the questions keep piling up
Posted by weaglebeagle
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:41 pm to
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Areo Hotah


quote:

LOST's final season


Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:55 pm to
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do you think Martin really develops him into something significant?


With Arienne leaving Dorne, the books need a POV in Dorne. And Martin has said no more new POV characters.
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:04 pm to
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With Arienne leaving Dorne, the books need a POV in Dorne. And Martin has said no more new POV characters.


Doran Martell?
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:10 pm to
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Doran Martell?


I want to read firsthand about the death of Darkstar. Hotah is going to axe rape Darkstar.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:12 pm to
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I want to read firsthand about the death of Darkstar. Hotah is going to axe rape Darkstar.


:can'twait:
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 2:27 pm to
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weaglebeagle
exactly


quote:

:can'twait:
:scenecut:
Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 4:29 pm to
I thought it was confirmed that Areo Hotah had his own POV's in the next book.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 4:35 pm to
Doesn't look like it


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George R. R. Martin confirmed the following characters to have POV chapters in The Winds of Winter:

Sansa Stark, one chapter was removed from A Dance with Dragons in June 2010[5]
Arya Stark, one chapter was removed from A Dance with Dragons in June 2010[5]
Arianne Martell, two chapters were removed from A Dance with Dragons in June 2010,[5] one sample chapter appeared on Martin's website in January 2013
Aeron Greyjoy, one chapter was removed from A Dance with Dragons in July 2010[6]
Theon Greyjoy, one sample chapter appeared on Martin's website in December 2011[7][8]
Victarion Greyjoy, portions of one chapter were first read at TIFF Bell Lightbox in March 2012[4]
Tyrion Lannister, one chapter was read at Eastercon in April 2012[9]
Barristan Selmy, two chapters were read at Boskone in February 2013[not in citation given][10]

Posted by SaintEB
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 4:41 pm to
That can't be all of them, but....


He is using old DwD chapters? This book has to be close....right...












right....












Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 4:46 pm to
Not even close. Early 2015 is my most optimistic guess
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 4:47 pm to
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This book has to be close....right...
1500 pages
- those chapters
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this close
Posted by lsuchip30
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 5:53 pm to
That can't be all of the POV's. Jon, Sam, Cersei, Jaime, Brienne, Davos, Dany, and Hotah are all established POV's and none are on that list.
Edit - Bran too
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 6:00 pm
Posted by CE Tiger
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 6:24 pm to
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Barristan Selmy, two chapters were read at Boskone in February 2013[not in citation given][10]


anyone got a link?


nevermind, Reddit Spoilers
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 6:26 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 6:38 pm to
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And Martin has said no more new POV characters.


I thought for sure he'd be adding Loras as a POV character to get the Tyrells point of view.
Posted by Bruce Leezard
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Posted on 4/10/13 at 6:42 pm to
The most Martin thing that could happen at this point would be for show and books to diverge and have different endings.
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 6:43 pm
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