This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" - Political Talk

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JerseyTiger WA state Member since Aug 2004 38763 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/19/07 at 6:19 p.m. to Scoop) As I've said before, if you have fancy rims, you should automatically be eliminated from consideration for even just one cent of government money.
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biglego In traffic on I-12 Member since Nov 2007 7917 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/19/07 at 6:50 p.m. to LSUMJ) I work too hard and pay too much taxes for another able bodied New Orleanian to get another dime. there's nothing but jobs in nola, if one is willing to work.
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footballislife Member since Mar 2007 3907 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/19/07 at 6:58 p.m. to biglego) Honestly, does this not happen in other parts of the state? Are there not wellfare queens in south Livingston parish living the good life off our tax dollars. I know I have a distant relative in Miss. that is living off my tax donations.
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biglego In traffic on I-12 Member since Nov 2007 7917 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/19/07 at 7:00 p.m. to footballislife) quote: Honestly, does this not happen in other parts of the state? Probably, and it sucks. But I know for a fact in nola that since the storm there are plenty blue-collar jobs to be had. Service industry, construction, etc.
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LSUMJ BR Member since Sep 2004 9667 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/19/07 at 7:17 p.m. to footballislife) "Honestly, does this not happen in other parts of the state? Are there not wellfare queens in south Livingston parish living the good life off our tax dollars. " but rarely will you see them on the front page of a major newspaper next to their plasma tv saying "its pathetic how little people give you"
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biglego In traffic on I-12 Member since Nov 2007 7917 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/19/07 at 7:19 p.m. to LSUMJ) And in a city where Wendy's is paying $9 per hour. Not that it's great money, but its something.
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GeneralLee Member since Aug 2004 6985 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/19/07 at 7:44 p.m. to footballislife) It happens on a MUCH smaller scale around the state. New Orleans is the mothership of welfare recipients in Louisiana... it's time to drain the welfare swamp!
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EatnCreaux Houston, TX Member since Jan 2005 2218 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/19/07 at 9:40 p.m. to LSUMJ) What's most amazing is that not one single person on this board supports the scope of such publicly financed support. I would not have expected sanity to prevail. Only one consistently liberal supporter chimed in, and only to stupidly suggest that it could be a gift (cuz we all know how such luxuries are NEVER targeted by slum living criminals, and who wouldn't want to put such magnificent bait in the home of a 60 year old lady). When even libs are silent on the issue, this is a clear sign of a boundary being identified. Yet it happens. Is it more likely that this is a by-product of out-of-proportion Katrina sympathy, or typical of the public assistance lifestyle. I'm going with both. Can't do anything about the katrina sympathy (water under the bridge), but without knowing the source of her luxurious slum pad, should this be a lesson for making sure that individuals get help only proportionate to someone's judgement of their needs? I hate bitching about stuff without proposing a more tolerable and realistic alternative (unlike Rex), so how do we put the genie back in the bottle?
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Zach Member since May 2005 32567 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/20/07 at 3:47 a.m. to EatnCreaux) quote: how do we put the genie back in the bottle? Uh, stop delivering the checks.
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sdc74 Scotland Member since Jan 2007 693 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/20/07 at 4:37 a.m. to EatnCreaux) quote: What's most amazing is that not one single person on this board supports the scope of such publicly financed support. I would not have expected sanity to prevail. Only one consistently liberal supporter chimed in, and only to stupidly suggest that it could be a gift (cuz we all know how such luxuries are NEVER targeted by slum living criminals, and who wouldn't want to put such magnificent bait in the home of a 60 year old lady). When even libs are silent on the issue, this is a clear sign of a boundary being identified. Yet it happens. Is it more likely that this is a by-product of out-of-proportion Katrina sympathy, or typical of the public assistance lifestyle. I'm going with both. Can't do anything about the katrina sympathy (water under the bridge), but without knowing the source of her luxurious slum pad, should this be a lesson for making sure that individuals get help only proportionate to someone's judgement of their needs? I hate bitching about stuff without proposing a more tolerable and realistic alternative (unlike Rex), so how do we put the genie back in the bottle? Liberal here.. sorry I'm late.. just joking. But no one, liberal/conservative can support someone abusing the system. I have the same question as you.. what is a realistic alternative? Its easy to say cut off the checks but it seems like a CATCH-22.. people who dont want shite (like a real job) and dont want to do shite look for the "easy" money - crime.. Then you just supporting him/her in the system.
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EatnCreaux Houston, TX Member since Jan 2005 2218 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/20/07 at 7:09 a.m. to Zach) quote: Uh, stop delivering the checks. quote: I hate bitching about stuff without proposing a more tolerable and realistic alternative (unlike Rex), so how do we put the genie back in the bottle? Care to wager on how realistic this no-brainer is? Perhaps my choice of words was off. But I'll wager 2 rounds of beers that she'll still be getting checks this time next year, despite the fact that virtually no one thinks this is right. You know what, let's make that wager $3 million dollars. I'll even meet you down in New Orleans so we can invite Sharon to join us for some conversation about her lifestyle. Perhaps she can pick up the tab as payback for what we gave her (this part doesn't have to be realistic). This post was edited on 12/20 at 7:14 a.m.
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CarrolltonTiger New Orleans Member since Aug 2005 25306 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/20/07 at 7:43 a.m. to footballislife) quote: Honestly, does this not happen in other parts of the state? Are there not wellfare queens in south Livingston parish living the good life off our tax dollars. I know I have a distant relative in Miss. that is living off my tax donations. This isn't New Orleans policy or New Orleans tax money being blown out the arse on the parasites it is federal policy and Federal tax dollars that create people that can live better without working. The feds also just kicked in several million to move the 200 or so camped out across from City Hall into hotels so the state can tear down the state office building.
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Ric Flair Lake Charles Member since Oct 2005 4853 posts Online	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/20/07 at 7:56 a.m. to EatnCreaux) My theory on how to reduce crime in the projects is to make it a law nationwide that if you are under age 60, you have to work at least 40 hours a week, and if not, you are subject to a mandatory "transfer" every two years to a different city. Many people with real jobs get transferred to a different city to keep their jobs. And you have no choice as to the city you are transferred to. Once you hit age 60, you can "retire" to the projects of your choice. Hopefully, this will decrease gang violence as it would "mix up" the population (or it could result in the resurrection of "national" gangs).
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LSUGradATL Atlanta Member since Jul 2007 4064 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/20/07 at 8:14 a.m. to LSUMJ) quote: "I might be poor but I don't like to live poor. I thank God for a place to live but it's pitiful what people give you."
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CarrolltonTiger New Orleans Member since Aug 2005 25306 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/20/07 at 8:22 a.m. to Ric Flair) quote: My theory on how to reduce crime in the projects is to make it a law nationwide that if you are under age 60, you have to work at least 40 hours a week, and if not, you are subject to a mandatory "transfer" every two years to a different city. Many people with real jobs get transferred to a different city to keep their jobs. And you have no choice as to the city you are transferred to. Work doing what? Do you want to work with or supervise these people? What do you think they could do that they wouldn't frick up? A cost benefit analysis may reveal thier segregating themselves from society is cheaper than your integrating theminto functional society. Move them where? To other places where people have fled from them or to other concentrations of dysfunctionals? What is the purpose of that expense involvoed with resettlement?
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uway Member since Sep 2004 8997 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/20/07 at 8:55 a.m. to CarrolltonTiger) quote: Move them where? Alaska?
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EatnCreaux Houston, TX Member since Jan 2005 2218 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/20/07 at 9:44 a.m. to CarrolltonTiger) How about, we combine unemployment benefits with various welfare programs while simultaneously abolishing minimum wage? Perhaps this could work, by not having these checks sent to individuals, but would only be collected through employers. The government would pay a share of the employee's salary, scaled according to the business's paid wage. The more a business pays, the lower percentage the government pays. Such a system would mean businesses can reap the benefits of cheap labor for jobs they otherwise would not bother to create, have an incentive to hire legal US workers, and would be part of a scaled wage system for welfare workers that encourages productivity and performance. This is the holy grail of good government - it's the friggin triple crown! There are obviously many jobs that Americans won't do for low wages. For example, Mom & Pop Grocery store pays an illegal alien to sweep floors for $5 an hour. If they won't hire an American for $5.85, they certainly won't do it for $7.25. But the above proposal would allow them to hire someone to do it at a cost to their business of only $3.62 an hour. A modified welfare/unemployment program would chip in the other $3.63 per hour. So Mom & Pop could still hire an illegal alien, but why when a US citizen will be paid more money for the same job at half the cost to Mom&Pop? As the wage rate increases, the business share to government share ratio can be scaled toward a higher percentage of business pay as it gradually overtakes the government share until full business employment (100% of wage paid by business) is reached. For example, when an employee is earning $10 an hour, the business is paying $8 of it and the government is paying $2. So the business providing the supervision still determines the wage based on the employee's value as they do now. The business continues to do what they do best, the government does nothing but write a matching check that gets smaller as workers become more skilled and more valuable, while the worker starts learning about relative value and the rewards of doing incrementally more than they are currently doing. Add to this an elimination of automatic citizenship for children born from non US citizens, and we've taken away some of the most significant incentives which encourage illegal immigration - without raising the cost of labor to businesses. I think the average welfare recipient received about $11,000 a year (before the min wage rate was increased) in benefits for not working. That comes out to about $5.28 an hour for 40 hours every week. So the above proposal is even less expensive to the taxpayer. Would such a proposal be better than the system now in place? Or worse? What about long term effects? Now, miss Sharon would make a terrible Greeter at Walmart, but I'll bet she could sweep on aisle 9. If/when Ms. Sharon proves to Walmart that she isn't even worth the cost of a dollar per hour, I'll bet Ms. Sharon's church (Holy Name of Victorius Jesus Antioch Greater Mount Olive Gethsemane Lord and Savior Zion of Unified Calvary Ministries) would gladly serve themselves and their community by offering her a paid position to help them serve her community. With a large portion of their payroll being members of the congregation, the competition amongst them may start providing lessons on relative value based on pleasing the boss man. This post was edited on 12/20 at 9:49 a.m.
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8thyearsenior on an oil rig Member since Mar 2006 1094 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/20/07 at 9:44 a.m. to CarrolltonTiger) quote: Work doing what? Do you want to work with or supervise these people? What do you think they could do that they wouldn't frick up? A cost benefit analysis may reveal thier segregating themselves from society is cheaper than your integrating them into functional society. Good post! Never thought of that.
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Gulf Coast Tiger Pass Christian Member since Jan 2004 1082 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/27/07 at 11:51 a.m. to 8thyearsenior) I wonder if this woman has ever had a job? What did we do without the welfare system in the early history of our country? Oh yeah, you worked or you did not survive. What a great concept.
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Zach Member since May 2005 32567 posts	re: This New Orleans leech is tired of "living in a slum" (Posted on 12/27/07 at 12:48 p.m. to Gulf Coast Tiger) quote: What did we do without the welfare system in the early history of our country? I grew up in the 50s and early 60s prior to LBJ's great society initiatives. Sick and disabled people relied on extended family, church and charities. Able bodied people who refused to work were called "Bums" and they did not procreate because nobody wanted to marry a bum. Today's dependent class breeds like rabbits and passes along the culture of non-work.
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