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igoringa LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Jun 2007 5981 posts	Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:14 p.m.) You know there have been a mountain of posts demanding respect and comparing the Big 10 to the SEC... in over a dozen of these I have mentioned the following fact set and the response from the North has been deafening silence. What I am basically asking is how do you get around: 1) The fact the Big 10 has had only won winning bowl season this decade. ONE. 2) This conference lost to such juggernauts as App State, ND State, Bowling Green, Iowa State, Duke, W Michigan and Florida Atlantic. Every SEC loss except 1 was not only to BCS conference teams but all of them (excluding the won) on bowl teams. How are these facts compatible with any argument favorable to the Big 10? This post was edited on 12/5 at 8:15 p.m.
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Cicero Ohio State Fan Americus GA Member since Oct 2007 218 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:16 p.m. to igoringa) If it was conference vs conference I think the case would be valid, but this game is LSU vs OSU and short of SEC speed, a weak big ten etc there has been no real football discussion to be had.
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MoCsGreygoose Ohio State Fan Toledo Ohio Member since Dec 2007 103 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:17 p.m. to igoringa) OSU has as good a resume as any team this side of USC the last seven years....I'm not worried about big ten/SEC...that shite is for teams who wish to hide behind their conference for their accolades.
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CosmoKramer Ohio State Fan Team Gun Member since Dec 2007 21814 posts Online	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:17 p.m. to igoringa) The Big Ten had a winning record against the SEC last year 2-1.
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Tigerark LSU Fan Arkansas Member since Dec 2003 10357 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:17 p.m. to Cicero) We are waiting for you to give us something to discuss. I've already asked you several times. Give us the FACTS!
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igoringa LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Jun 2007 5981 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:18 p.m. to Cicero) quote: If it was conference vs conference I think the case would be valid, but this game is LSU vs OSU and short of SEC speed, a weak big ten etc there has been no real football discussion to be had. Well the threads I were citing were conference vs conference. If the conversation is not to your satisfaction, feel free to depart at your leisure.
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mattyray32 Ohio State Fan North Central Ohio Member since Dec 2007 293 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:18 p.m. to Cicero) SEC dominace
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igoringa LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Jun 2007 5981 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:21 p.m. to CosmoKramer) quote: The Big Ten had a winning record against the SEC last year 2-1. You were actually 3-1 einstein... if you are going to cherry pick and hunt and search for any micro data that may help, atleast do that right. Good god, I had no idea acid rain did this much damage.
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AlwaysABuckeye Ohio State Fan Ohio Member since Dec 2007 76 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:22 p.m. to igoringa) I am really not sure where this is relevant to the game but I will give it a shot. I too think the big 10 was down. That, however, does not mean that the best team in a down conference doesn't deserve to be on the same field as the SEC Champion. Ohio State gave up 10.6 points per game. That'll win you a lot of games. Especially the ones you are supposed to win. I am looking at you LSU.
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MoCsGreygoose Ohio State Fan Toledo Ohio Member since Dec 2007 103 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:22 p.m. to AlwaysABuckeye) USC trounced Oklahoma in a "down" Pac Ten
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mattyray32 Ohio State Fan North Central Ohio Member since Dec 2007 293 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:23 p.m. to igoringa) you see micro data.. I see facts
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igoringa LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Jun 2007 5981 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:23 p.m. to mattyray32) Matty, no question head to head, particularly in the past decade it has been very close. Ofcourse that makes up such a small fraction of both conferences OOC games.
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SprintFun Ohio State Fan Columbus, OH Member since Dec 2007 15453 posts Online	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:25 p.m. to mattyray32) I would love to have somebody please explain to me why its relevant that the Big10 has not had a winning bowl record, but they do have a winning bowl record against the SEC and that is irrelevant. If anything that just means the rest of the competition is a peg higher than the big 10 which is a peg higher than the SEC.
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igoringa LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Jun 2007 5981 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:26 p.m. to AlwaysABuckeye) quote: I am really not sure where this is relevant to the game but I will give it a shot. OK, I will type slower.... where did I say it was relevant to the game? Please tell me where, because multiple posters seem to see this somewhere and I cant find it. I said there were numerous threads (starting by people with the Buckeye O I might add) discussing conference strength and to that I am responded. Do not recall saying, "Thus LSU by 35" (there are plenty of other reasons for that).
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tigahfromtheham LSU Fan Birmingham Member since Jun 2005 2003 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:28 p.m. to AlwaysABuckeye) quote: Ohio State gave up 10.6 points per game. That'll win you a lot of games. Especially the ones you are supposed to win. I am looking at you LSU. Come the frick on. Look at who you played? 10.6 isn't that impressive considering there were no OT games and you played how many teams that are actually going to a bowl? OSU must have a sweetooth cause your all about some cupcakes
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CosmoKramer Ohio State Fan Team Gun Member since Dec 2007 21814 posts Online	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:28 p.m. to igoringa) quote: You were actually 3-1 einstein... if you are going to cherry pick and hunt and search for any micro data that may help, atleast do that right. Good god, I had no idea acid rain did this much damage. When you call someone out, make sure you're right, otherwise you look like a complete idiot. The Big Ten was 2-1 last year against the SEC. Penn State over Tennesee Wisconsn over Arkansas Florida over Ohio State Which game am I missing, Eistein? 2006 Bowl Results
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Hicktown Ohio State Fan Laurelville, OH Member since Dec 2007 117 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:29 p.m. to igoringa) That's not an unreasonable question, even though I am one of those that thinks the B10 should have some more respect. LINK the B10 has 10 teams that are bowl elidgible. in non conference play, purdue, MSU, indiana; undefeated in conference play. NW and illinois are normally HORRIBLE but they only had one loss in non conference (grant you, Duke can't be overlooked) Michigan had a horrible start, but it is a much different team than the one that got embarassed from the start and PSU and Illinois can play spoilers. Wisconsin and OSU are solid teams, but missing something from being top caliber; consistancy. The B10 is losing its parody (except for minnesota ) and people will look at this from the midwest and want more respect. In my opinion, the B10 should get more respect but is a year away from making a lot of noise and is still behind the SEC overall.
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igoringa LSU Fan Atlanta Member since Jun 2007 5981 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:30 p.m. to SprintFun) "I would love to have somebody please explain to me why its relevant that the Big10 has not had a winning bowl record, but they do have a winning bowl record against the SEC and that is irrelevant." Never said it was irrelevant. It is a matter of looking at the population or a sample. I am choosing population and you are choosing a sample. "If anything that just means the rest of the competition is a peg higher than the big 10 which is a peg higher than the SEC." LOLOLOL If that is the case, the SEC would have a pathetically brutal bowl record even worse then the pathetically brutal bowl record the Big 10 has.... alas we all know that is not the case (although some of us do not like to admit it).
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SprintFun Ohio State Fan Columbus, OH Member since Dec 2007 15453 posts Online	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:30 p.m. to SprintFun) Winning bowl record vs the SEC in the BCS era I meant.
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Ralph_Wiggum Twin Cities, Minnesota Member since Jul 2005 697 posts	re: Big 10 - OSU fans please respond (Posted on 12/5/07 at 8:31 p.m. to igoringa) The reason for the perception that the big ten is down is that Michigan went 8-4 and lost to App State. Ten of 11 big ten teams qualified for bowls. NU and Iowa missed out on bowls, but 10 qualified. Before you state as fact that the big ten is down wait until the bowl games are played and we see head to head matchups. Last year the Big Ten went 3-1 versus the SEC so last year the Big Ten was better if you based it on facts.
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