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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 11:26 pm
[quote]Yes it is. I fail to see how someone of sound mind and cognitive ability could hold any other. [/quote]So you fail to recognize the concept of borrowing and/or temporary budget shifts? [quote]Victory. [/quote]The simple fact that you consider a discussion to be a competition explains a lot....

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 11:12 pm
[quote]Korkstand, I'm glad you quit posting in this thread. Until you step outside of the bubble you live in your posts in this thread are really not productive.[/quote]:lol: Are you talking about the bubble in which I see and understand arguments from both sides, and then use my own thoughts and li...

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re: Any recommendations on a new balls trimmer?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 6:02 pm
[quote]i use reggular razor with [b]surgical[/b] precision [/quote]Poor word choice in a ballsack thread...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 6:00 pm
[quote]The 60% that pay oncenter they are cut off isnt.[/quote]I was obviously talking about the part I quoted, where the guy takes their payment as proof that they can afford it, which is your position. It is conjecture. The fact that they manage to pay in order to turn the water back on is no more...

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re: Any recommendations on a new balls trimmer?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 4:20 pm
[quote]too many irregular shapes down there for me to navigate with a RAZOR :ahh: [/quote] Have you ever tried it? It's really not that hazardous, I haven't nicked myself once. I use electric trimmers (or safety razor) on my face, and a mach3 on my balls :lol:...

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re: Any recommendations on a new balls trimmer?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 3:55 pm
[quote][quote]Electric?[/quote]Yes.[/quote] Eesh, electric for the balls? Regular razor works fine, no nicks. I tried electric trimmers without a guard one time. Those teeth WILL bite the sack. I had to explain the series of 10 perfectly spaced and aligned blood spots on my ballsack to my wife....

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 2:36 pm
[quote]Because the article supports my position and not yours, without conjecture?[/quote] This isn't conjecture?![quote]Latimer appears to take this as proof that customers can afford to pay, but are just being irresponsible citizens, taking advantage of the system as much as they can.[/quote]:lol...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 2:24 pm
[quote]I also found this- maybe this will catch on!!!! Free water for all!!! [/quote]That is sad and stupid, and I hope it's not as widespread as it's made out to be. Concrete? Ridiculous....

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 2:19 pm
[quote]So there is one person living in each household???[/quote]:lol: I had the same brain fart as Rusty. 15,750 PEOPLE, not households. I think the 15k or so households that got shut off probably covers most of them....

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 2:04 pm
[quote]So she's had 4 years to find a job and couldn't even locate a McDonalds to flip burgers at? Here's some conjecture from me: She didn't want to find a job. She had no motivation to do so because all of her needs were being provided for her. [/quote]I got that from the same article you quoted. ...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 1:48 pm
[quote]Korkstand's bizarre line of thinking is that because they didn't do it in the only way HE deems fit, ie turn off their water within one month of no payment[/quote]That's not how I deem it fit, that's the way it has been proven to work all over the country without prompting marches and interna...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 1:36 pm
[quote] I'm just going to continue to call your position out as pure conjecture until you provide even one case that proves otherwise. [/quote]From the article you linked:[quote]Walker, a 48-year-old single mother of two, lost her job as an in-home caregiver in 2010 and has since been cleaning and c...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 1:15 pm
[quote]As has been brought up multiple times, this is a catch 22. If they shut off water after 3 months, it's inhumane because they aren't giving enough time. If they wait a year, it's inhumane because the bill has grown beyond their ability to pay. [/quote]That's bull shite. People all over the c...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 1:07 pm
[quote]Those that can't pay their bills in Detroit...but we are getting off on a tangent here. [/quote]Yeah, and you pointed us in this direction. It's quite obvious that many people in Detroit are very, very poor. [quote]You accused me of making broad generalities and that's exactly what you have...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 12:56 pm
[quote]Because DWSD already did. They sent shutoff notices in May and then followed through. So they end of your earlier post is irrelevant. [/quote]They sent notices which some claim they didn't receive (I'm sure most won't believe that), and they are offering both assistance and payment plans but ...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 12:32 pm
[quote]I don't think anyone wanted their water to be shut off either. I just don't think they believed it would happen. [/quote]They didn't. [quote]I bet many notices were given. How many notices should be given? Should the 100th say " we're shutting off your water for nonpayment- serious,you guys...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 12:24 pm
[quote]WTF? Some of the accounts were in arrears for a year. Almost every functioning adult that I know would reason this was grounds for service disconnection. [/quote]Why didn't you bold where I said "and following through"? Letting it go for a year is not following through, it makes people think ...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 11:57 am
[quote]The problem with this is a large segment of the population already can't/won't pay their bills. Add on top of that the fact that Detroit has a way above national average service cost for water utilities and not very many of the affected customers will be able to/or want to float this.[/quote]...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 11:44 am
[quote]That is somewhat reasonable, but these people are arguing that they should not have to pay for water at all, so I doubt your solution would work.[/quote]There is a very stupid minority arguing that they shouldn't have to pay for water at all. ...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 11:23 am
[quote]Why the frick is it the water department's job to solve anything long-term?[/quote]The water department is controlled by the city....

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 11:22 am
[quote]Detroit allowed the bills to get out of control because they didn't want to cut people off. [/quote][quote]Now that it got out of control[/quote]It should have been easy to see this coming, right? [quote]what would you have them do? They can't go back in time and just cut them off after ...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 11:05 am
[quote]Detroit is a poor city that cannot afford to pay for services while not requiring payment for those services [/quote]Which is why I said the department should not have let things get to this point. If sending notices, offering assistance, and shutting off delinquents had always been the polic...

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re: So NOAA and NASA are doctoring temperature data.
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 10:53 am
[quote]agreed, but I'm sure you know that they do have to calibrate for urbanization, for things like parking lots[/quote] Yeah, heat islands are mentioned in the article linked in the OP, and that's one of the reasons we're talking about "doctored" data to begin with....

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re: So NOAA and NASA are doctoring temperature data.
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 10:38 am
[quote]Hasn't it also been revealed that many temperature gauges relied on to measure alleged global warming are installed on vast plains of black asphalt, such as parking lots and runways? [/quote]no...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 10:32 am
[quote]the question is what we do with those of lesser intelligence and culture, aka the "trailer park problem" [/quote]Cut off their water and see what happens? :dunno: The root of the problem is that if you surround someone, anyone, with an environment of success, that person has a very good ch...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 10:01 am
[quote]We process those poors into food for other poors. I thought we covered this? [/quote] :lol: still giggling...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 9:56 am
[quote]Also Im guessing korkstand has never lived in Seattle...I have[/quote]Been there, lived in Portland. What's your point?...

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re: So NOAA and NASA are doctoring temperature data.
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 9:30 am
[quote]Even small regular waves are a couple of feet high but these "scientists" can measure the sea level rise in centimeters? I call bull shite.[/quote] :lol: They actually measure it in millimeters, but why call bull shite just because you don't understand it? Your example of waves being a proble...

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re: Piece of electronics you bought that never really caught on
Posted by Korkstand on 7/23 at 9:18 am
How many people do you think got totally screwed by Sony? Bought Sony Betamax -> lost to VHS Bought Sony DAT -> lost to cassettes Bought Sony MiniDisc -> lost to CD-R Bought MemoryStick -> lost to SD cards LEARNED LESSON, frick SONY Bought HD-DVD -> lost to Sony-backed Bluray :lol:...

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re: So when does premium cable become an inalienable right?
Posted by Korkstand on 7/22 at 10:25 pm
[quote]Should have read the full study: quote: About 866,000 households appear to live in extreme poverty across a full calendar quarter assuming 300MM people in the US, that' .28% of households. [/quote] Households are not people. [quote]We can go round and round about how many of ...

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