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Posted by SlowFlowPro on 2/7 at 2:22 pm to Jester
bynum is basically as good as a traditional center can be in the neo-NBA

when he's healthy basically the only thing that's wrong with him is he could improve his FT% (which was right under 70 and not bad for a traditional 5)



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Posted by quail man on 2/7 at 2:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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bynum is basically as good as a traditional center can be in the neo-NBA


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when he's healthy


i think the biggest problem is his ability to stay healthy...if he could have a 5 year span of putting up the numbers he's capable of without people having to worry "when is he going down next?"...then you have a superstar on your hands. right now, he's more of a distraction.



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Posted by TigerinATL on 2/7 at 2:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
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like andrew bynum in his rookie year?



Bynum's no SuperStar. Again, I think Drummond can be good and will get better, but the context of this is will he be better than AD, and if you assume AD reaches his ceiling of top 3-5 player in the league, then no I don't think Drummond will be better than AD.



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Posted by SlowFlowPro on 2/7 at 2:33 pm to quail man
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i think the biggest problem is his ability to stay healthy

fo sho

i don't want him on my team

but his 2nd year he had this line (in 21.9 mpg)

7.8 ppg
5.9 rpg
0.2 apg
0.5 bpg
0.1 spg
FG% 55.8
FT% 66.8
PER: 15.44

Drummond? (in 19.7 mpg)

7.3 ppg
7.5 rpg
0.5 apg
1.7 bpg
0.9 spg
FG% 59.2
FT% 36.5
PER: 22.61



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Posted by SlowFlowPro on 2/7 at 2:35 pm to TigerinATL
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but the context of this is will he be better than AD

i really don't think people think this is likely

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and if you assume AD reaches his ceiling of top 3-5 player in the league, then no I don't think Drummond will be better than AD.

if we assume drummond will reach his ceiling, he'll be better than AD at AD's ceiling, fwiw

AD is much more likely to reach his respective ceiling, though



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Posted by Jester on 2/7 at 2:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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when he's healthy basically the only thing that's wrong with him is he could improve his FT% (which was right under 70 and not bad for a traditional 5)


And the maturity of a 7 year old doesn't help him, either.



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Posted by HeadyBrosevelt on 2/7 at 2:49 pm to Jester
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And the maturity of a 7 year old doesn't help him, either.


Ive never seen a 7 year old get in a fight then take his shirt off at the American Airlines Arena



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Posted by Jester on 2/7 at 2:54 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
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Ive never seen a 7 year old get in a fight then take his shirt off at the American Airlines Arena


Well, that settles it. His behavior is extremely mature and we should all model our behavior after his.



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Posted by LSU Piston on 2/7 at 3:01 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
I've seen about 2/3s of the Pistons games this year.

Drummond is being brought along 'slow' for one major reason. That fact that he is really raw.

As crazy as this sounds, another reason that I think he doesn't start is Coach Frank's loyalty to Jason Maxiell (Free Agent) who has been a Piston forever.

One more reason is Drummond's conditioning. Not Jim Calhoun, Joe Dumars, or Lawrence Frank thought that Drummond would have near the impact that he has had this season. Tayshaun Prince had a quote about 3-4 weeks ago talking about how Drummond is a really bad practice player. It all just clicks in the games, I suppose. IMO, Drummond looked gassed the last 3-4 games, so I wonder if the long season is catching up to him. He's recovering from a bad back, so I'm interested to see how he finishes the season. No doubt he starts next year.

I think Drummond's future depends on the Pistons lineup. He'll be starting besides Monroe, who is the antithesis of Drummond. The Pistons don't need Drummond to be a back to the basket offensive player. They need him to be more "Ben Wallace." So, I predict for the next year or two, we will continue to see his defensive game and rebounding flourish, while he continues to bring his offense around very, very slowly.



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Posted by quail man on 2/7 at 3:17 pm to LSU Piston



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Posted by Walter White on 2/7 at 3:45 pm to TigerinATL
That's solid. He will be an animal next season


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Posted by Tayday on 2/7 at 5:22 pm to LSU Piston
Nice info. I want to say I read that Detroit is going to increase Drummond's minutes after the All-Star game since they're out of the playoff race, so we should see what his stat line looks like if he gets closer to 30 min a game.


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Posted by htran90 on 2/7 at 5:48 pm to Tayday
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Nice info. I want to say I read that Detroit is going to increase Drummond's minutes after the All-Star game since they're out of the playoff race, so we should see what his stat line looks like if he gets closer to 30 min a game.



maybe we should increase AD's shots to improve his offensive skillsets



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Posted by Jester on 2/7 at 6:41 pm to htran90
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maybe we should increase AD's shots to improve his offensive skillsets


I think we just need to keep running our offense. We don't want people developing bad habits.



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Posted by tigerfan88 on 2/7 at 10:49 pm to Jester
As much as we hate to admit it, we aren't the only team who got a potential top ten guy in the league in this draft. Drummond could very easily be the next Howard or Bynum. However, it is interesting that Drummond didn't have nearly the impact at UConn that DAvis had at Kentucky. Combine this with the talk that he's a bit out of shape and a bad practice player, and it seems to me that the odds of Davis continuing to work hard and improve his game and stay in shape are much better than drummonds


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