Navy To Cut Up Stranded Ship...To Prevent Reef Damage
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Navy To Cut Up Stranded Ship...To Prevent Reef Damage
Posted by DeltaDoc on 1/31 at 2:14 pm
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(CNN) -- A 224-foot-long U.S. warship will have to be cut into smaller pieces to get it off a Philippine reef where it grounded two weeks ago, Navy officials said Wednesday.

They said that's the only way to prevent further damage to the Tubbataha Reef, a Philippine national park and UNESCO World Heritage site, where the USS Guardian, an Avenger-class mine countermeasures ship, ran aground on January 17.

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Lt. Anthony Falvo, a U.S. Navy Pacific Fleet spokesman in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, told CNN on Wednesday that Navy salvage experts are still formulating the details of how they'll cut up the 1,312-ton minesweeper.

Crews are now working to remove any hazardous materials from the vessel and will look to save anything that could still prove useful to the Navy. The ship's 15,000 gallons of diesel fuel were removed last week.

"We will strip it out beforehand. We'll work to salvage any parts that can be salvaged," Falvo said. Then the cutting will begin.


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As for other costs, Philippine officials said last week that the Philippines would seek compensation for damage to the reef. About 1,000 square meters (about 10,760 square feet) of it have been damaged.

"It's a damage to a world heritage site. It's a damage to our natural resources. It's a damage to an important site. We cannot but put emphasis on the importance of this reef as a heritage site," presidential spokesman Edwin Lacierda said.

The reef is home to a vast array of sea, air and land creatures, as well as sizable lagoons and two coral islands. About 500 species of fish and 350 species of coral can be found there, as can whales, dolphins, sharks, turtles and breeding seabirds, according to UNESCO.

The salvage operation must ensure that the reef sustains no further damage, Lacierda said.


Wonder what the replacement cost is on a mine-sweeper that is over 200 feet long? It cost $61m 23 years ago.



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Posted by CarrolltonTiger on 1/31 at 2:17 pm to DeltaDoc
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Wonder what the replacement cost is on a mine-sweeper that is over 200 feet long? It cost $61m 23 years ago.


Wonder what the cost for damge to the reef will be?



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Posted by C on 1/31 at 2:18 pm to DeltaDoc
Seems odd that they can't float the ship off once they stripped a large amount of weight off the vessel. It would be interesting to see the incident report.


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Posted by TigerinATL on 1/31 at 2:26 pm to DeltaDoc
Green Job Creation


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Posted by DeltaDoc on 1/31 at 2:27 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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Wonder what the cost for damge to the reef will be?


Don't know. Given the area of damage (1100 sq meters) and the ability of reef to regenerate, who knows?



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Posted by DeltaDoc on 1/31 at 2:29 pm to C
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Seems odd that they can't float the ship off once they stripped a large amount of weight off the vessel. It would be interesting to see the incident report.


I have a buddy that ran a 24 Pathfinder bay boat about 200 yards across a point that did not show up on his GPS one night (no one was injured...probably because of their BACs). I have a feeling something similar happened here.

He said the path through the cattails looked like a UFO crash site.



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Posted by CITWTT on 1/31 at 2:34 pm to DeltaDoc
That skipper is so screwed it ain't funny. The operators of the sonar were derelict to say the least.

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Posted by White Roach on 1/31 at 2:34 pm to DeltaDoc
Several Naval careers just came to a screeching halt.

I can't imagine how this happened... How far off course were these guys?



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Posted by RollTide1987 on 1/31 at 2:35 pm to DeltaDoc
So we are going to destroy one of our ships, a ship that cost tens of millions of dollars of our tax money to build, to save a freaking coral reef from unnecessary damage?! Not only that....the Filipinos are going to ask us for compensation money? Seriously?!



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Posted by DeltaDoc on 1/31 at 2:43 pm to RollTide1987
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So we are going to destroy one of our ships, a ship that cost tens of millions of dollars of our tax money to build, to save a freaking coral reef from unnecessary damage?! Not only that....the Filipinos are going to ask us for compensation money? Seriously?!


I know...sounds like a decision made by Ray Mabus...Secretary of the Navy...and probably the worst governor in Mississippi's long history of shitty governors.



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Posted by White Roach on 1/31 at 2:43 pm to RollTide1987
I'd guess they can't refloat it without making a bigger mess, but who knows. Maybe we're sucking up to the Filipinos. Maybe the Navy wants a new minesweeper.


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Posted by C on 1/31 at 2:46 pm to RollTide1987
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the Filipinos are going to ask us for compensation money? Seriously?!


We can argue about the amounts but we did do damage so I have no problem with some money being paid and I hope the navy slams the crew members responsible; criminally if possible.




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Posted by UncleFestersLegs on 1/31 at 2:57 pm to C
Cut it in half and sink it close by to form a new reef.


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Posted by rickgrimes on 1/31 at 3:29 pm to DeltaDoc
What the hell kind of a mine sweeper is this ship if it can't see a frickin' coral reef?


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Posted by Jim Rockford on 1/31 at 3:46 pm to RollTide1987
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So we are going to destroy one of our ships, a ship that cost tens of millions of dollars of our tax money to build, to save a freaking coral reef from unnecessary damage?! Not only that....the Filipinos are going to ask us for compensation money? Seriously?!


If you drove your truck into my house, I'd expect you to get it out in a manner that caused the least additional damage, and I'd for damn sure expect compensation. This isn't rocket science.



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Posted by ClydeFrog on 1/31 at 4:20 pm to DeltaDoc
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Philippine officials said last week that the Philippines would seek compensation for damage to the reef.


Now that is straight bull shite. We can charge them for our Navy's role in securing their waters.



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Posted by Siderophore on 1/31 at 4:37 pm to DeltaDoc
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Don't know. Given the area of damage (1100 sq meters) and the ability of reef to regenerate, who knows?


The damage is likely permanent, and won't be repaired.

And it wouldnt be like it was regardless.

FWIW, Greenpeace paid 7000 in damages for 100 meter impact.



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Posted by Siderophore on 1/31 at 4:38 pm to Jim Rockford
Apparently it is for some here....


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Posted by Siderophore on 1/31 at 4:40 pm to CITWTT
Why do you think the active sonar was on?


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