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| The Judge: Immigration is a Natural Right Posted by joshnorris14 LINK /  on 1/30 at 11:20 pmAnd he is absolutely right. What you consider immigration, is really just freedom of movement. Reply • Back to Top |
quote:I've actually started to come around to this view myself. Freedom of movement seems pretty basic to me. Reply • Back to Top |
| As long as freedom of movement doesn't result in me paying for that movement, which it invariably will. Reply • Back to Top |
quote:What is a country then? Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Nothing really. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Well then you should focus your solutions on the problem (paying for the movement). Reply • Back to Top |
Posted by Revelator on 1/30 at 11:53 pm to joshnorris14 quote: So you'd be perfectly fine with a immigrant family moving into your home then? Reply • Back to Top |
quote: No. Reply • Back to Top |
Posted by Revelator on 1/30 at 11:58 pm to joshnorris14 quote: Why not? Illegals should have the right to go wherever they want according to you. If a countries border doesn't matter, certainly something as trivial as your door or walls shouldn't impede the immigrants movements?! This post was edited on 1/30 at 11:59 pm Reply • Back to Top |
quote: It is my property. quote: I never said that. quote: One of those doesn't exist. Two of those do. Care to guess which ones? Reply • Back to Top |
| I could come around to this but the problem is that you shouldn't be allowed to cross the border and feast on government goodies paid for by taxpayers on day one. The pilgrims endured some harsh consequences when they showed up. When the Mayflower landed, no one handed them shite. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: I agree. But again, the problem isn't immigration, it's the welfare. Reply • Back to Top |
Posted by Revelator on 1/31 at 12:03 am to joshnorris14 quote: This country is someone's property also. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Whose? Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Right on. If the deal was, "hey come on in if you want but once you get here, if you don't work, you don't eat", immigration would naturally regulate itself. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Of course. It's a basic example of Capitalism. But, what we have now is a very state controlled aspect of life. Reply • Back to Top |
Posted by Revelator on 1/31 at 12:09 am to joshnorris14 quote: Well there is obviously privately owned property. Then there is gov. land. And since the citizens of a particular country pay taxes to fund the gov, its the citizens land. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: So it's my land? Reply • Back to Top |
Posted by Revelator on 1/31 at 12:12 am to joshnorris14 quote: I don't know? Are you a citizen? Reply • Back to Top |
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