Chelsea 2012/2013 Season Long Thread
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Posted by RandySavage on 1/27 at 7:21 pm to FanInLA
For sure, I understand the rules. I just don't like them and am glad it wasn't called in that situation. If we are going to win the last trophy we are up for lets at least earn it.


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Posted by LSUSOBEAST1 on 1/27 at 7:29 pm to RandySavage
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Again it was obviously a handball but I'm glad we weren't gifted a game against Brentford on a call like that. They didn't deserve that and neither did we.






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Posted by glassman on 1/27 at 7:34 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
Looking like an Arsenal/ManU final to me.


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Posted by Bho on 1/27 at 7:42 pm to RandySavage
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If we are going to win the last trophy we are up for lets at least earn it.


WHAT?



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Posted by RandySavage on 1/27 at 8:27 pm to Bho
It's really not that hard to understand. I don't want to be gifted a win from a ref in stoppage time against a League 1 (or whatever they are) side.

Brentford didn't deserve to lose like that and we don't deserve to win like that.

They deserve their replay at the Bridge.

That said I hope we thrash them 10-0 next time but with this squad I guess I should be happy with a 1-0.



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Posted by Bho on 1/27 at 11:01 pm to RandySavage
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I don't want to be gifted


It's not a gift. Its a rule.

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Brentford didn't deserve to lose like that and we don't deserve to win like that.



Opinion doesn't always reflect scores. IE:QPR game we dominate possession, pound their keeper they get one shot and it goes in. Should that not have counted because it's not fair?

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They deserve their replay at the Bridge.


I'm glad Brentford gets to play at the Bridge. They did play well enough to earn it.

And just to clarify my what about last trophy, we are still in Europa.



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Posted by RandySavage on 1/28 at 7:12 am to Bho
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It's not a gift. Its a rule.


A bad one, imo.

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Opinion doesn't always reflect scores. IE:QPR game we dominate possession, pound their keeper they get one shot and it goes in. Should that not have counted because it's not fair?


That's our fault for not converting on possession and chances. There is nothing unfair about losing because you waste possession and can't finish. In fact you deserve to lose. Also, we were nowhere near "pounding their keeper". 75% of our shots were David Luiz blasting it into the nosebleeds from 30 yards out.

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I'm glad Brentford gets to play at the Bridge. They did play well enough to earn it.




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And just to clarify my what about last trophy, we are still in Europa.


Unfortunately. I have no interest in winning the losers bracket.



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Posted by mt1 on 1/28 at 7:32 am to RandySavage
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It's not a gift. Its a rule.




A bad one, imo.


I'm curious, what do you think the penalty should be for a handball in the box?



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Posted by RandySavage on 1/28 at 8:53 am to mt1
Unless it denies a clear goal scoring opportunity there should be some alternative than just giving a PK (and essentially a goal) to the other team.

Just like when some player running full speed gets a touch on the ball 2 yards before it goes out of bounds and there is zero chance of him ever getting to the ball before it goes out but then he gets knicked and goes flying. Or when a player is fouled at the edge of the box going away from goal. No way that should be what basically amounts to an automatic goal.

Punishment is way too harsh for the crime. Just let them take a free kick from the spot of the foul. Just because it occurs inside some arbitrary lines doesn't mean it should have to result in a PK imo.



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Posted by Bho on 1/28 at 12:00 pm to RandySavage
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Punishment is way too harsh for the crime.


Here is where I have an issue. I agree with this in certain circumstances. I've seen hand balls in the box called when hands were down and it was just tough luck. That guy had his arm extended literally reaching. There is no excuse. That is a PK and always should be. Just because there wasn't 3 guys unmarked in front of goal doesn't mean it's not a goal scoring opportunity. Also, I know you said you had no interest in winning the "losers bracket" but it's mind blowing to me that you'd rather lose it. Who actually hopes their team loses?



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Posted by LSUSOBEAST1 on 1/28 at 12:05 pm to RandySavage
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Or when a player is fouled at the edge of the box going away from goal.


A PK is called in that situation MAYBE 5% of the time. It simply does not happen. Give the refs just a bit of credit.



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Posted by RandySavage on 1/28 at 1:13 pm to Bho
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Also, I know you said you had no interest in winning the "losers bracket" but it's mind blowing to me that you'd rather lose it. Who actually hopes their team loses?


I never said I hope we lose. What I do hope is that we play as many reserves/young players as possible and don't waste the energy of the guys that we will need to make sure we finish in the top 4 down the stretch.



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Posted by RandySavage on 1/28 at 1:15 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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A PK is called in that situation MAYBE 5% of the time. It simply does not happen. Give the refs just a bit of credit.


Maybe but it happens ALL THE TIME in the other scenario I presented where a guy barely gets a heavy touch on a ball that is clearly going out of bounds and then gets knicked by the keeper (usually). It's ridiculous to award a PK in that situation when the guy had 0% chance of even getting near the ball again before it went out of bounds.



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Posted by TFTC on 1/28 at 1:36 pm to RandySavage
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Maybe but it happens ALL THE TIME in the other scenario I presented where a guy barely gets a heavy touch on a ball that is clearly going out of bounds and then gets knicked by the keeper (usually). It's ridiculous to award a PK in that situation when the guy had 0% chance of even getting near the ball again before it went out of bounds


I agree what you're saying to some degree... like no Pass Interference if the ball is uncatchable... It's a lot harder call in this case and could open up a messy can of worms...



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Posted by RandySavage on 1/28 at 1:40 pm to TFTC
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It's a lot harder call in this case and could open up a messy can of worms...


Fair enough and I agree that it could be a case of be careful what you wish for in terms of giving refs more discretion but sometimes things don't have to be so black and white and common sense should come into play.



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Posted by olddawg26 on 1/29 at 6:44 pm to Harry Pitts
I'm flying over to England for the chelsea wigan match. frickin excited. GO BLUES


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Posted by FanInLA on 1/30 at 11:54 am to olddawg26
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I'm flying over to England for the chelsea wigan match. frickin excited. GO BLUES


Sweet!! Stamford Bridge is gonna be a blast. Full slate of PL games that Saturday. You gotta post on here live during the game.



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Posted by Harry Caray on 1/30 at 3:31 pm to olddawg26
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I'm flying over to England for the chelsea wigan match. frickin excited. GO BLUES


that's awesome

Blues looking good from Mata's goal onward so far.
Torres and Cole have been terrible.



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Posted by LSU Red24 on 1/30 at 3:53 pm to Harry Caray
frick this.


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Posted by Bho on 1/30 at 3:54 pm to LSU Red24
WHY CAN'T WE BEAT MOTHERfrickING READING????????


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