40 years ago today Abortion became legal in this country
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Posted by TK421 on 1/23 at 7:08 pm to NoHoTiger
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I would always explain options to any hypothetical kids I may have.


Usually appeals to maternal instinct awaken the conscience of women.

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Having an option doesn't mean that option is considered. Just that it exists.


In the minds of people that wouldn't consider abortion, the option doesn't exit.



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Posted by manwich on 1/23 at 7:16 pm to TK421
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In the minds of people that wouldn't consider abortion, the option doesn't exit.
"Wouldn't consider" is a figure of speech. They have considered the option and choose not to. The option exists whether they choose it or not.



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Posted by darkhorse on 1/24 at 3:06 am to Keltic Tiger
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I believe the "FACTS" as expoused by religious right researchers as much as I believe the facts as expoused by the NRA. Each has a very specific agenda & each is very good at putting THEIR facts out as "scientific proof".


What I placed on here was actual research by scientists. Not just from the US, but from finlad, canada, etc.

That goes back to my comment about we want our "pleasures" but we don't want what comes with it.

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And I find it amusing that all the anti abortion ranters here appear to be men


Really?? Because I have found that it is the men who usually want the female to abort so they don't have to pay support....and that's AT THE RISK of the female's life and well being. Do you get that?



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Posted by catholictigerfan on 1/24 at 5:24 am to darkhorse
About that only man thing isn't like 98% of the posters on the poli board men?

I've seen maybe two women posters in here one I haven't seem in a while



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Posted by darkhorse on 1/24 at 12:57 pm to catholictigerfan
Well, I noticed that when I stated it was generally a man pushing the woman for an abortion, and it's men not wanting the informtion of health issues due to abortion to be given to them..... they got kind of quiet!


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Posted by asurob1 on 1/24 at 1:47 pm to darkhorse
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Really?? Because I have found that it is the men who usually want the female to abort so they don't have to pay support....and that's AT THE RISK of the female's life and well being. Do you get that?





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Posted by Me4Heisman on 1/24 at 2:54 pm to asurob1
Regardless of the legalities, I think we can all agree that people that abort babies are pieces of shite.


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Posted by NoHoTiger on 1/24 at 3:09 pm to Me4Heisman
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I think we can all agree that people that abort babies are pieces of shite.


I don't agree with this statement.



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Posted by asurob1 on 1/24 at 5:40 pm to Me4Heisman
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Regardless of the legalities, I think we can all agree that people that abort babies are pieces of shite.






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Posted by PRK on 1/24 at 5:59 pm to Me4Heisman
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I think we can all agree that people that abort babies are pieces of shite.


I think a huge problem with conservatism today (perhaps conservatism forever) is that you simply cannot relate to the circumstances people other than yourself find themselves in.



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Posted by Me4Heisman on 1/24 at 8:31 pm to PRK
Nope. Pieces of human excrement.


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Posted by HeadChange on 1/24 at 9:48 pm to Me4Heisman
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Nope. Pieces of human excrement.


Shoulda been aborted IMO



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Posted by darkhorse on 1/25 at 4:17 am to asurob1
I'm glad you find it funny in the face of facts.

As I clearly laid out from the studies conducted in Finland, Canada, Us, UK....etc, the facts are overwhelmingly against you.

So I ask you again to answer the questions:

1- Above all else, if it's the womans right to choose, why is it that men want to block all information about the effects of the abortion?

This is just 1 case

I could list you case after case, suit after law suit where planned parenthood does not want this information in the hands of women considering an abortion. So again, why block that?

Just to be clear... here's a quote from the law suit headed up by planned parenthood:

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At issue are five provisions of the Pennsylvania Abortion Control Act of 1982: § 3205, which requires that a woman seeking an abortion give her informed consent prior to the procedure, and specifies that she be provided with certain information at least 24 hours before the abortion is performed;


Again, case after case filed by them to keep women in the dark.

2- How does that make you feel? To know that Planned parenthood is keeping women in the dark so they can make billions of dollars per year? It's all about the money..

3- Who should pay for the billion dollar industry formed by the abortion rights? To be clear.. I am referring to post abortion surgeries, meds, psychologist visits.... etc.



Just as a ending note:

Planned Parenthood Minnesota v. Mike Rounds
Again seeks to specifically keep information from women. Their argument is that it is an undue burden for the doctor to give this information.

Planned Parenthood SUED

As you can see here, an abortion is a high risk surgery. Look at the dates of all of those law suits and you will see they are new. Most resulted in death.

But by all means let's not inform the women of everything. Let's keep them uneducated. The theme of the past 1000 years right..

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A Planned Parenthood abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, has been sued for negligence for a botched abortion after the abortionist allegedly failed to diagnose a client’s tubal pregnancy, which painfully ruptured 25 days later necessitating emergency surgery. She is now infertile.


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Tonya Reaves died at Northwestern July 20 after she began to hemorrhage at a Planned Parenthood clinic located at 18 S. Michigan Ave., according to the Cook County Medical Examiner’s office. Reaves, of the 1500 block of North Kildare Avenue, was pronounced dead at 11:20 p.m.


In this case, the clinic waited 5..FIVE HOURS before contacting 911 to get her to a hospital

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A Planned Parenthood abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, has been sued for negligence for a botched abortion after the abortionist allegedly failed to diagnose a client’s tubal pregnancy, which painfully ruptured 25 days later necessitating emergency surgery. She is now infertile.


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A woman has filed a suit against a Planned Parenthood clinic in Nebraska claiming they were negligent in performing her abortion. The woman reportedly suffered from seizures and was forced to undergo an emergency hysterectomy following her surgery.


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A lawsuit has been filed against Planned Parenthood’s business in Lincoln, Neb., over an abortion that left a woman with a “catastrophic perforation” of her uterus, which could have killed her had not two hospital physicians performed an emergency hysterectomy Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2007/09/43359/#fArvOIqc67RVyp1f.99


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Planned Parenthood told to pay $672,610 for botched abortion ...



With all of these law suits, you would think they would be out of business, but they are not. Why? Because it is a multi BILLION dollar industry. They don't want to let the information out. All they want to do is say it's your right and everything is going to be ok!




Hopefully you will actually answer the questions.



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Posted by catholictigerfan on 1/25 at 7:08 am to darkhorse



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Posted by LockdownDefense on 1/25 at 8:09 am to darkhorse
What point are you trying so hard to make?

It's a surgery, things go wrong in many kinds of surgeries. I had my appendix removed 6 years ago, the doctor didnt sit there and tell me of every botched surgery that happened to people with appendicitis. I knew there was a risk.

..and what does any of that have to do with legally taking away a woman's right to her self anyway?


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Posted by Blaquebuete on 1/25 at 9:17 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
Abortion is murder. Point blank - period.

People having abortions should pay penalties to the state and serve jail time.



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Posted by Keltic Tiger on 1/25 at 9:43 am to Blaquebuete
My sister was brutally raped & tortured over a 2 day period, by an animal with the IQ of a plant. She became pregnant because of that animal. She & the rest of the family had NO fricking problem aborting. You really need to come down out of that ivory tower you live in & preach from & try & understand what the real world is all bout.


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Posted by darkhorse on 1/25 at 10:16 am to LockdownDefense
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What point are you trying so hard to make?


I made the points clearly. They are within the questions. Try answering them if you are going to stick up for the elective surgery.


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It's a surgery, things go wrong in many kinds of surgeries. I had my appendix removed 6 years ago, the doctor didnt sit there and tell me of every botched surgery that happened to people with appendicitis. I knew there was a risk.


Sorry, that's not comparing apples to apples.

Your surgery was not elective. Your surgery, if not done, would result in your death! And I am sure you were told that or your parents were.

Abortion is an elective surgery. It's usually not a life or death situation. A ruptured appendix is.

Try again please.



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Posted by darkhorse on 1/28 at 12:10 am to darkhorse
going to bump for a response!


Don't even spout of crap if you can't answer the question.



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Posted by CtotheVrzrbck on 1/28 at 1:54 am to udtiger
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Eugenicists rejoice!





Sounds like 56 million welfare recipients we're not having to pay for.



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