Telly Hankton and his control of the drug trade in NOLA
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re: Telly Hankton and his control of the drug trade in NOLA
Posted by RogerTheShrubber on 1/12 at 1:36 am to lsu480
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I want drugs to be legal as badly as anyone but this is debatable. The ONLY industry in a lot of areas, like the ghettos of N.O., is the drug industry. If that goes away what are all of those people gonna do for money? Work real jobs?



Probably will be less of an incentive for the next generation to quit school, join gangs and kill each other. What they do with their life in the meantime, I don;t care.

The illegal nature of the drug trade is the root of violence for the inner city. I don't care if they work or not but their power as organized criminal groups will be greatly diminished.



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Posted by lsu480 on 1/12 at 1:39 am to Jon Ham
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Not my problem what someone chooses to do with their life.


Heartless racist!



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Posted by RogerTheShrubber on 1/12 at 1:41 am to lsu480
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Not my problem what someone chooses to do with their life.


Heartless racist!



You know damn well someone will start calling us "racist" who support legalizing drugs, taking all that financial opportunity away from the street...



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Posted by Ed Osteen on 1/12 at 1:42 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Probably will be less of an incentive for the next generation to quit school, join gangs and kill each other. What they do with their life in the meantime, I don;t care.


It might tone it down some but these groups will always exist in lower income neighborhoods. People will still find ways to fight with each other even if drugs aren't involved. I do understand what you are saying FWIW but it's a much deeper issue than just drugs



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Posted by saintsfan22 on 1/12 at 1:45 am to Ed Osteen
No Miles' recruits in the whole crime family so there's something else he has on Saban.




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Posted by lsu480 on 1/12 at 1:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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What they do with their life in the meantime, I don;t care.


Well you live in Alaska and I live in Scottsdale so it doesnt matter to us but if I lived in Baltimore, N.O., or Chicago I would be freaking the frick out if they legalized drugs!



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Posted by RogerTheShrubber on 1/12 at 1:47 am to Ed Osteen
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It might tone it down some but these groups will always exist in lower income neighborhoods. People will still find ways to fight with each other even if drugs aren't involved. I do understand what you are saying FWIW but it's a much deeper issue than just drugs



It will take a whole lot of the money, and a whole lot of the power away.

Alcohol prohibition was the heyday of the mob and organized crime. It provided an opportunity for gangs and violence. Same thing happened with the war on drugs.



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Posted by RogerTheShrubber on 1/12 at 1:48 am to lsu480
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Well you live in Alaska and I live in Scottsdale so it doesnt matter to us but if I lived in Baltimore, N.O., or Chicago I would be freaking the frick out if they legalized drugs!


Drug use is pretty high here, and legalizing it doesn't scare me a bit. Probably would make towns like Anchorage a helluva lot safer. Most of their violent crime is associated with the drug trade.



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Posted by yurintroubl on 1/12 at 1:49 am to NYCAuburn
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I am sorry, but hundreds of kilos over 20 years, is not that prolific.

That's what I was thinking.



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Posted by lsu480 on 1/12 at 1:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It will take a whole lot of the money, and a whole lot of the power away.



And a whole lot of jobs!!! THe nations unemployment rate would go up a few %. Border patrol agents, lawyers, cops, judges, etc would all se HUGE cut backs. Entire agencies in the federal government would be eliminated. Large corporations would just add drugs to their existing stores and less than 1/10th of the lost jobs would be regained. shite would get bad!



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Posted by RogerTheShrubber on 1/12 at 1:55 am to lsu480
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And a whole lot of jobs!!! THe nations unemployment rate would go up a few %. Border patrol agents, lawyers, cops, judges, etc would all se HUGE cut backs. Entire agencies in the federal government would be eliminated. Large corporations would just add drugs to their existing stores and less than 1/10th of the lost jobs would be regained. shite would get bad!


Eh, just can't see it. Wouldn't be that much differently than when the military cuts jobs. We could use fewer cops and soldiers.



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Posted by lsu480 on 1/12 at 1:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Eh, just can't see it. Wouldn't be that much differently than when the military cuts jobs. We could use fewer cops and soldiers.



Of course we could but what would they do? Manufacturing is dead in this country, more and more jobs are being outsourced and pretty much everything is getting automated. I know it may not hurt you in Alaska but if you took a macro view you could see that a few % point drop in employment, combined with the factors I listed above, could break this country. Not to mention Mexico would fall if we legalized drugs and then all of them would REALLY be trying to sneak into the US.



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Posted by CCT on 1/12 at 1:59 am to Ed Osteen
Which one of those guys is SuperSaint?


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Posted by Jon Ham on 1/12 at 1:59 am to lsu480
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And a whole lot of jobs!!! THe nations unemployment rate would go up a few %. Border patrol agents, lawyers, cops, judges, etc would all se HUGE cut backs. Entire agencies in the federal government would be eliminated. Large corporations would just add drugs to their existing stores and less than 1/10th of the lost jobs would be regained. shite would get bad!



With drugs being legal, new jobs would be created in the production, marketing, selling, and regulating of drugs. More stores would need to be built, more workers would be needed to run the stores. The tax profit gained by its legalization could be reinvested to create jobs that add VALUE to society instead of just facilitating a big game of "cops and robbers."


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Posted by Ed Osteen on 1/12 at 2:05 am to Jon Ham
Aside from the endless drug debate, the story is pretty interesting and I thought that some posters would be entertained reading about it. Not that I didn't expect it but this isn't about the drug legalization argument


(still waiting for that one a-hole to post something racist and get this entire thread deleted)


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Posted by lsu480 on 1/12 at 2:18 am to Jon Ham
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With drugs being legal, new jobs would be created in the production, marketing, selling, and regulating of drugs. More stores would need to be built, more workers would be needed to run the stores. The tax profit gained by its legalization could be reinvested to create jobs that add VALUE to society instead of just facilitating a big game of "cops and robbers."



Sure some new jobs would be created but most would be sold at existing stores like Wal-Mart and Circle Ks and they wouldn't have to hire more workers just because they added a few SKUs. The lost jobs, illegal and legal, would FAR outnumber any jobs gained. Any additional tax revenues would probably be offset by the increased unemployment and welfare benefits we would have to pay out, in fact I doubt the increased tax revenue would be enough to cover those. If you take a macro view you will see its not as simple as you think. Again...I would love for all drugs to be legal but it would not be in the best interest of the U.S.. I am probably the only person who thinks this way but I know I am on to something!


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Posted by lsu480 on 1/12 at 2:19 am to CCT
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Which one of those guys is SuperSaint?



Telly......duh!



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Posted by CCT on 1/12 at 2:20 am to Ed Osteen
Ed, I, for one, did enjoy what you posted and found it very informative.




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Posted by Jon Ham on 1/12 at 2:25 am to lsu480
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Sure some new jobs would be created but most would be sold at existing stores like Wal-Mart and Circle Ks and they wouldn't have to hire more workers just because they added a few SKUs. The lost jobs, illegal and legal, would FAR outnumber any jobs gained. Any additional tax revenues would probably be offset by the increased unemployment and welfare benefits we would have to pay out, in fact I doubt the increased tax revenue would be enough to cover those. If you take a macro view you will see its not as simple as you think. Again...I would love for all drugs to be legal but it would not be in the best interest of the U.S.. I am probably the only person who thinks this way but I know I am on to something!


Using your logic, why don't we go ahead and resume the prohibition on alcohol? Just imagine all the new black market jobs that would create! We could criminalize alcohol, tobacco, and hell, just about anything until every thug out there has a job on the black market!



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Posted by lsu480 on 1/12 at 2:27 am to Jon Ham
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Using your logic, why don't we go ahead and resume the prohibition on alcohol? Just imagine all the new black market jobs that would create! We could criminalize alcohol, tobacco, and hell, just about anything until every thug out there has a job on the black market!



We tried that for a few years and it didn't work....we have tried outlawing drugs and it has proven that is does work. If it truly was in the best interest of this country we would have done it a long time ago!

ETA: I hate to end on this post but I am going to bed. Read my other posts and really think about what I said!


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