This is why we don't shoot nice deer
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Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt on 12/18 at 3:24 pm to mylsuhat
Fwiw, I just got done hanging out with a state biologist at the camp who was scoring some huge bucks and asking various questions about what we were seeing/killing and how the flood seemed to affect our herd.

I'm not going to bore y'all with details, but he has repeatedly stated that we have deer dying of old age just because of the type of terrain we have and how healthy he thinks our deer herd is.

We shoot some young bucks too. He also aged a 4 point and ugly 7 point we killed last year at 4,5 and 3.5 years old respectively going off jawbones and pictures. The several years we were in DMAP also showed that we were shooting a good bit of 4.5+ year old bucks and even two that were too old to tell. Further proof IMO that you simply cannot manage some places with guns and bullets.



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Posted by REB BEER on 12/18 at 3:27 pm to mylsuhat
You guys are killing me....


Maybe we should change the name from "deer hunting" to "antler hunting"

What ever happened to club members actually being happy when someone kills a deer?



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Posted by mylsuhat on 12/18 at 3:28 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
100000000000% agree


the place you hunt and where I hunt at home, you just dont see 95% of the deer



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Posted by mylsuhat on 12/18 at 3:30 pm to REB BEER
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Maybe we should change the name from "deer hunting" to "antler hunting"

What ever happened to club members actually being happy when someone kills a deer?
read my other posts; I am on your side of that argument



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Posted by AlxTgr on 12/18 at 3:33 pm to REB BEER
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What ever happened to club members actually being happy when someone kills a deer?
I don't know, but I know that's not something I want anything to do with.



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Posted by AlxTgr on 12/18 at 3:34 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
if your place is doing it right, then why are you bitching so much?



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Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt on 12/18 at 3:34 pm to mylsuhat
Yea and I think most places I hunt are that way, including the high and dry big buck places. Granted, you may see a larger percentage of the deer simply due to being able to more effectively cover the whole property, but I don't think you see nearly as many as you think you do.

Regardless of your practices you will have bucks growing old and dying without somebody ever laying eyes on them. It's the nature of the prey. I believe the only exception to this is high fence where your deer population is controllable. You simply cannot control your population on free range deer.



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Posted by AlxTgr on 12/18 at 3:36 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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You simply cannot control your population on free range deer.



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Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt on 12/18 at 3:36 pm to AlxTgr
I'm not bitching. I just like to argue. I participate in both sides of this argument all year every year. One side is clearly gaining popularity though and I prefer for it to stay more balanced.


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Posted by AlxTgr on 12/18 at 3:38 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I participate in both sides of this argument all year every year.
Meh



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Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt on 12/18 at 3:38 pm to AlxTgr
Please inform me on how a couple of people with guns can control how many deer inhabit a given area when the deer are free to come and go as they please short of blasting every single deer anyone sees, which I have never heard of any group of people doing ever.


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Posted by MillerMan on 12/18 at 3:38 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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One side is clearly gaining popularity though and I prefer for it to stay more balanced.


That side is definitely not high fences on this site



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Posted by AlxTgr on 12/18 at 3:38 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Please inform me on how a couple of people with guns can control how many deer inhabit a given area when the deer are free to come and go as they please short of blasting every single deer anyone sees, which I have never heard of any group of people doing ever.
What? Who is saying this?



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Posted by REB BEER on 12/18 at 3:39 pm to mylsuhat
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read my other posts; I am on your side of that argument



Sorry if I misread your posts, I only looked at the first couple pages.



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Posted by REB BEER on 12/18 at 3:41 pm to AlxTgr
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I don't know, but I know that's not something I want anything to do with.



You sound like a blast to hunt with.

I killed a button buck Saturday morning in front of dogs, and it was the second one of the day. No one bitched and people were actually happy we didn't have to chase dogs all day.



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Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt on 12/18 at 3:41 pm to AlxTgr
If you think what I said was hilariously stupid, which you definitely implied, then refute it.

Miller man, I don't high fence hunt so you're on your own with that one. The rules are different with controlled populations.



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Posted by AlxTgr on 12/18 at 3:45 pm to REB BEER
quote:

You sound like a blast to hunt with.
I am according to some.
quote:

I killed a button buck Saturday morning in front of dogs, and it was the second one of the day. No one bitched and people were actually happy we didn't have to chase dogs all day.





Great. again, not something I want to be a part of.



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Posted by AlxTgr on 12/18 at 3:46 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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If you think what I said was hilariously stupid, which you definitely implied, then refute it.
I misread it. I now see there's nothing funny about that at all.



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Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt on 12/18 at 3:47 pm to AlxTgr
Well that's no fun


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Posted by redneck on 12/18 at 3:48 pm to REB BEER
2 button bucks in one day? Yikes


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