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Posted by bobbyray21 on 12/10 at 11:00 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
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So you're saying the undercard was exciting? The whole card was good?


I only got to the bar in time to watch the last two undercard fights. I thought both of them were exciting, especially the second one. Gamboa is one my favorite fighters.



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Posted by braindeadboxer on 12/10 at 11:02 pm to bobbyray21
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I love this. Two guys are making a damn good argument, and yet it isn't an argument. Sure guy.


True

I'll never change his mind and he'll never change mine. This is worse than politics.



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Posted by bobbyray21 on 12/10 at 11:03 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Marquez vs Pacquiao V could be just as big as Mayweather vs Pacquiao could of been


Mayweather / Pacquiao two years ago would have been one of the biggest fights of all time.



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Posted by VerlanderBEAST on 12/10 at 11:06 pm to bobbyray21
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I also grew up a huge boxing fan & still enjoy the sport. It's not really an argument either. Boxing cards/events suck.....there has never been a great undercard, or a boxing event with a bunch of huge names/exciting fights on 1 main card. You go to a boxing event for 1 fight only


you don't watch boxing. All you have to do is go back like 6 weeks Garcia vs Morales on Showtime EXCELLENT undercard.



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Posted by VerlanderBEAST on 12/10 at 11:07 pm to bobbyray21
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Mayweather / Pacquiao two years ago would have been one of the biggest fights of all time.

JMM vs Pac 5 would be as well. Its a promoters dream.



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Posted by molsusports on 12/11 at 1:21 am to bobbyray21
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The comment about the affliction tees is unquestionably true. But even if that wasn't the case, boxing would still be a way better product for live viewing. There is nothing exciting about watching a guy try for five minutes to move from side mount to full mount.


there are two explanations for you feeling this way:

1) you've watched a couple boring fights and made a bad extrapolation about the sport in general
2) you just haven't watched enough MMA to understand what is going on and appreciate what the fighters are doing when they grapple




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Posted by molsusports on 12/11 at 1:26 am to braindeadboxer
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Bingo. And I can't stand watching MMA guys throw 3 punch combos and then going to the mat and grappling. Yes I know grappling is an art and is difficult, but it makes a fight so boring. I'd rather watch 2 shitty boxers on an undercard get into a sloppy brawl. Pretty, no. Exciting, yes.


To me there's nothing uglier than two unskilled guys slowly bashing each other in the face. I love a skilled boxing match but there's nothing uglier than two guys who are past their prime or just unskilled slowly converting each other into lobotomy patients




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Posted by Ysebaert on 12/11 at 1:38 am to UFownstSECsince1950
Boxing is more of a legit sport than MMA. I've followed MMA from it's beginning and appreciate the skill and dedication involved. The thing is....I would never attend a MMA event and I like to attend boxing matches. The douchebaggery element is just too prevelant in MMA. Kind of like people from Central ya know....just straight up douche bags....except on a global scale. I guess I'm just a traditionalist. In other words out dated. Professional boxing is in a sad state of affairs and just keeps getting worse.


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Posted by UFownstSECsince1950 on 12/11 at 2:25 am to Ysebaert
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I would never attend a MMA event and I like to attend boxing matches. The douchebaggery element is just too prevelant in MMA.
yes, clearly the douchebag element is not present in boxing whatsoever.....



























you were saying



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Posted by bobbyray21 on 12/11 at 2:30 am to molsusports
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1) you've watched a couple boring fights and made a bad extrapolation about the sport in general
2) you just haven't watched enough MMA to understand what is going on and appreciate what the fighters are doing when they grapple


Ah, the typical reply from the MMA hipster. "you just dont' understand MMA". Love it.

I've watched enough MMA to understand what is going when they're grappling. And this changes not the fact that (1) when viewed live it is difficult to follow what is going on from anywhere other than basically ringside seats, and (2) there is nothing exciting about watching a guy try for five minutes to go from side mount to full mount. Nothing at all.




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Posted by bobbyray21 on 12/11 at 2:33 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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you were saying



Your picture based argument has been fully considered but is unpersuasive. Good luck with future arguments.



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Posted by bobbyray21 on 12/11 at 2:35 am to molsusports
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To me there's nothing uglier than two unskilled guys slowly bashing each other in the face. I love a skilled boxing match but there's nothing uglier than two guys who are past their prime or just unskilled slowly converting each other into lobotomy patients


Did you watch the Pacquiao/Marquez undercard?



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Posted by bobbyray21 on 12/11 at 2:43 am to molsusports
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there are two explanations for you feeling this way:

1) you've watched a couple boring fights and made a bad extrapolation about the sport in general
2) you just haven't watched enough MMA to understand what is going on and appreciate what the fighters are doing when they grapple



And just so that we're clear, I've watched tons of MMA. I had a roommate who loved the stuff, and so I ended up watching it all the time. I don't think MMA sucks at all -- I would pay good money to see Silva and GSP fight. I just don't think MMA makes for a very good live viewing experience. And I generally think boxing is a better sport.*


*I used to box, and so this will likely never change.



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Posted by braindeadboxer on 12/11 at 5:44 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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UFownstSECsince1950


I only need to post one picture to make a much more convincing argument. I'm starting to get the feeling that you wear Affliction.




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Posted by Good Times on 12/11 at 6:04 am to bobbyray21
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I just don't think MMA makes for a very good live viewing experience.


Been there, and I agree. But on the tube, I'm MMA.



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