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Posted by Wolfhound45

on 10/8 at 11:16 pm

Saw this linked from the Drudge Report and had to post;

Did Obama Just Throw the Entire Election Away?

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I'm trying to see a silver lining. But when a president self-immolates on live TV, and his opponent shines with lies and smiles, and a record number of people watch, it's hard to see how a president and his party recover. I'm not giving up. If the lies and propaganda of the last four years work even after Obama had managed to fight back solidly against them to get a clear and solid lead in critical states, then reality-based government is over in this country again. We're back to Bush-Cheney, but more extreme. We have to find a way to avoid that. Much, much more than Obama's vanity is at stake.

Love the angst...

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Posted by PRK

on 10/8 at 11:17 pm to Wolfhound45

Obama wins comfortably.

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Posted by RTR America

on 10/8 at 11:21 pm to PRK

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Obama wins comfortably.

How's that kool-aid taste? Maybe you should look at EVERY single poll that has been posted in the last 2 days.

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Posted by PRK

on 10/8 at 11:22 pm to RTR America

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How's that kool-aid taste? Maybe you should look at EVERY single poll that has been posted in the last 2 days.

Interested in a ban bet?

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Posted by Wolfhound45

on 10/8 at 11:23 pm to PRK

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Obama retires comfortably.

FIFY

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Posted by glaucon

on 10/8 at 11:38 pm to Wolfhound45

Sullivan has been pissed since the debate. I think he is being a bit to much of a drama queen but, eh, it was a really bad performance.

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Posted by faxis

on 10/9 at 12:01 am to PRK

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Obama wins comfortably.

That's some astonishingly resilient denial you've got going on there.

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Posted by PRK

on 10/9 at 12:06 am to faxis

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That's some astonishingly resilient denial you've got going on there.

It's a fact consequent of the nature of the Electoral College (which I'm in favor of abolishing) and the reality that Mitt Romney is an absolutely horrible candidate. For any policy stance he's taken, I can find a video of him contradicting himself. It's actually sad that he was the best the GOP had to offer in the primaries (and he truly was the best).

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Posted by faxis

on 10/9 at 12:10 am to PRK

Makes no difference.

We have four years of Obama's real policy to draw from. Kinda hard to spin that unless you just completely turn off your brain.

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Posted by PRK

on 10/9 at 12:12 am to faxis

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We have four years of Obama's real policy to draw from. Kinda hard to spin that unless you just completely turn off your brain.

Obama has been an extremely effective President. He's pushed through some major bills. He has a solid record to run on. Just because you don't agree with his policies doesn't change the fact that he's been effective.

Obama will win comfortably.

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Posted by RTR America

on 10/9 at 12:15 am to PRK

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I can find a video of him contradicting himself.

So Romney is a flip flopper, but Obama evolved?

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Posted by RogerTheShrubber

on 10/9 at 12:16 am to PRK

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Obama will win comfortably.

Probably nothing he can do to lose. He has lost all respect though, not just of the moderates. Hardcore left don't respect him anymore.

He will win, but probably do as much damage to the Democratic party in the process as Bush did to the Republicans.

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Posted by ReauxlTide222

on 10/9 at 12:17 am to PRK

Has Obama ever flip-flopped and anything important?

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Posted by PRK

on 10/9 at 12:23 am to RogerTheShrubber

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Hardcore left don't respect him anymore.

As someone you'd probably consider to be on the "hardcore left" (I have more in common with Jill Stein than Barack Obama), I must agree.

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He will win, but probably do as much damage to the Democratic party in the process as Bush did to the Republicans.

Doubtful. He couldn't create an economic mess larger than Bush, and he won't get us into another Vietnam.

The real benefit of another Obama presidency is Supreme Court nominations.

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Posted by faxis

on 10/9 at 12:24 am to ReauxlTide222

Gitmo.

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Posted by faxis

on 10/9 at 12:24 am to ReauxlTide222

War.

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Posted by RTR America

on 10/9 at 12:24 am to PRK

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He has a solid record to run on.

Da fuq?

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Posted by faxis

on 10/9 at 12:24 am to ReauxlTide222

Civil liberties.

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Posted by RogerTheShrubber

on 10/9 at 12:26 am to PRK

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Doubtful. He couldn't create an economic mess larger than Bush,

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and he won't get us into another Vietnam.

He sure ain't getting us out of the one we are in.

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The real benefit of another Obama presidency is Supreme Court nominations.

He would probably frick that up too.

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Posted by faxis

on 10/9 at 12:26 am to PRK

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He couldn't create an economic mess larger than Bush, and he won't get us into another Vietnam.

What do you call Afghanistan?

Bush should have never put regular troops in there to hold ground but Obama doubled down and is losing bigtime.

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