Jindal shutting down LSU hospital system in order to privatize it
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Posted by LSUdm21 on 10/5 at 3:59 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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I came up Poor, constantly holding on by a thread as a young child. Parents were able to hold on got lucky and were out of poverty by the time I started middle school.

But I will never forget the arguments of choosing detergent to have clean clothes for work and school vs walking over an hour everyday to get to work that week. The understanding that one more unfortunate thing and my family would be crippled is more than enough to never disparage someone for giving up under oppressive circumstances.

Your kind won't even have slightest understanding of what you just read and that's fine by me.


You responded to the wrong person you fricking moron.



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Posted by saderade on 10/5 at 4:00 pm to tigerfan4120
Exactly the only out of state person I knew at LSU-NO had a 33 MCAT but had to enter the MD/PhD program


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Posted by LSUdm21 on 10/5 at 4:02 pm to tgrbaitn08
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They should get rid of LSU, "the charity" system all together b/c it is run so inefficiently. All private hospitals/clinics should then split the burden of taking care of those patients. Things would be run in a more cost effective way that way.



You have NO IDEA what you're saying here.



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Posted by TIGERSandFROGS on 10/5 at 5:58 pm to RealityTiger
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Quick, you better contact Skanska/Mapp. They're working on a huge project right now for LSUHSC. And by huge, I mean a square block of downtown NOLA.



Swing, and miss.



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Posted by Adam Banks on 10/5 at 6:28 pm to tgrbaitn08
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They should get rid of LSU, "the charity" system all together b/c it is run so inefficiently. All private hospitals/clinics should then split the burden of taking care of those patients. Things would be run in a more cost effective way that way.




I love how people keep saying this mantra "privatization is more efficient" Guess what. These are TEACHING hospitals ie that medicine doctor these patients see is rounding for the 2nd and 3rd time on the same patient because they are getting taught. That surgery that normally takes 20 min is taking an hour and a half because its the residents first time to do it. The med student takes 20 min to sew a 5 inch incision because they dont know how to hold a needle driver and forceps much less throw a knot. By definition they are inefficient. Do you want that inefficiency done on you the private insurance patient? Didnt think so. This will dramatically water down the educational experience of medicine in LA.



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Posted by DaSaltyTiger on 10/5 at 6:43 pm to Adam Banks
Agree. It takes time to teach. In the process of teaching, you want to make sure the student gets it right and the patient gets the treatment they need. Efficacy should never be sacrificed for the sake of efficiency.

I love hearing all of this efficiency crap from folks who don't have a clue in hell - our less than esteemed governor included.



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Posted by makinskrilla on 10/5 at 7:28 pm to CaribbeanDemon
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I love my state, and the people in it, but sometimes you stupid motherfrickers can't see the forest for the trees and become the most ignorant dumb asses when group think kicks in. We see that mentality every day on the rant, why do we need those rantards running the state.


How do you really feel?



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Posted by makinskrilla on 10/5 at 7:44 pm to Adam Banks
maybe they should have "private" teaching hospitals.


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Posted by Lacour on 10/5 at 8:04 pm to makinskrilla
I like the dying in a ditch option

Not for me. Of course. I will be getting my treatments where the 1 percenters do.



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Posted by Adam Banks on 10/5 at 8:05 pm to makinskrilla
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"private" teaching hospitals.


Once again. What private patient would voluntarily let themselves get operated on/treated by a first time intern and resident? Theres a reason why most teaching hospitals treat indigent care and are public hospitals. Parkland and Ben Taub both perfect examples of this. Are there residencies at private hospitals? Yes. However the majority involve a public hospital. The only difference is that Louisiana runs their charity hospitals state wide whereas most other states do "county" hospitals.

ETA: You aint gonna make money treating indigent medicaid patients at low efficiency. Thats why private hospitals send them away.


This post was edited on 10/5 at 8:08 pm

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Posted by lsu777 on 10/5 at 8:41 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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VerlanderBEAST
This quote so perfectly sums up the born on 3rd but thinks they hit a triple mentality. I know you would crumble under the slightest bit of adversity.


dude sorry your parents made more choices, i really am, but its not my problem. im not asking people to make good decisions when they are 14-15 but by the time they are 18 everybody should realize what choices should be made to help them. Listen im not mad people are poor, there will always be poor, but most are there due to bad decisions both as a teenager and as an adult. In the end its none of my business though and I could care less I just dont want to have to give them my money that I work for. They didnt work for it, I did. I guess im an a-hole for asking everybody to pay for their own shelter, their health, their own food, their own everything. I know its a novel concept but personal responsibility is the direction this country needs to go in.


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Sheep

You don't really believe all of this do you?

If so, I pray for you and everyone you interact with.



really, its wrong to believe that if the state is paying for something the payoff should be worth it? what do general studies major off to the state directly out of school that somebody with an associates in instrumentation or having trade doesnt? fact is the person with the associates or trade is much more valuable. same goes for all those majors i named. sorry but if you cant come out of school ready to contribute to the state then the government shouldnt pay for that university to have that major.



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stapuffmarshy
many people do. Rather sad



its sad that i believe the state shouldnt subsidize somebodies education that is majoring in a bull shite degree? well Im one sad mother fricker then.


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bdevill I saw a girl's post on her facebook page today, that the shoulder surgery she was scheduled for has been indefinitely postponed because of this. So now she can't work, she'll get on financial assistance and stay on morphine until she can get her surgery scheduled. Kinda F-ed


why doesnt she take action and reschedule the surgery with somebody else? that would be the responsible choice.


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tigerfan4120

Yeah, a private company is going to take care of the mentally handicapped. Sounds like a great business model. I read a lot of stupid stuff on here but that takes the cake.



are you retarded? where did i say a private company would take care of the mentally handicapped? i said their family should or a private CHARITY. the catholic church has plenty of these private charities, as do many other church groups. If somebody is just sick, they can raise their own money or turn to private charities. again why should i be FORCED to pay for this? guess im a retard for wanting people to pay for there own shite.






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Posted by LSURussian on 10/5 at 8:47 pm to MrLSU
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Jindal shutting down LSU hospital system in order to privatize it

I just read your entire linked article.

There was nothing in it which supports your thread's title. There was no mention of shutting down or privitizing the hospitals you listed.

Do you have another link supporting what you are saying? Because the one you gave doesn't.



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Posted by makinskrilla on 10/5 at 8:51 pm to Adam Banks
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Once again. What private patient would voluntarily let themselves get operated on/treated by a first time intern and resident?


Sounds like med students might have to pay for the opportunity to learn.



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Posted by Dumplin on 10/5 at 9:07 pm to makinskrilla
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Sounds like med students might have to pay for the opportunity to learn.

As in the $20,000 a year in tuition they pay to LSU School of Medicine. There is no TOPS for medical school in Louisiana.



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Posted by LaRon on 10/5 at 9:33 pm to Dumplin
can someone give me a summary of how this will affect med school students, residents, etc


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Posted by ToplessTenors4evuh on 10/5 at 9:45 pm to LaRon
I love LSU and have an undergraduate degree from there. But I'm also very grateful to have graduate degrees from other institutions outside the State of Louisiana, because from of all of this, the value of my LSU degree unfortunately decreases more and more every day. LSU maybe be a football 'powerhouse,' but academically, outside of Louisiana, those diplomas aren't going to be worth much when Piyush is finished with that state.


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Posted by MikeTigerSport81 on 10/5 at 9:56 pm to meangene323
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i am ok with cutting services to cut spending because you dont have the funds to pay the services, but do people actually believe that if you can fire public employees and hire a private company to provide the same services at a lower cost?


He's selling off the hospitals to his big money political contributors and to further his future national political races, not to save money. We should all pretend not to be shocked when LSUS hospital is sold to a group owned by folks in Florida. Remember Florida? Jeb? W?



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Posted by Dumplin on 10/5 at 9:57 pm to LaRon
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can someone give me a summary of how this will affect med school students, residents, etc

There are many potential consequences.

- Having fewer beds means having fewer cases available for training at any moment. That means less time and variety of exposure for training. It also means less hands on experience with various techniques and procedures. This has already effected medical students. They get much less hands-on experience during their surgery rotations especially, and there are far fewer medical rounds being conducted for second year students than the administration would like.

- Public-private partnerships move a lot of patients that would otherwise be in a public hospital into private hospitals. Private hospitals are much more risk averse, and will limit their exposure and liability by limiting the amount of hands-on experience for medical students.

- Reduction in funding will mean the outright elimination of residency positions.

The only way to learn in medicine is by doing, and these cuts are threatening to produce medical professionals that are not adequately trained.



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Posted by jdrumdog on 10/5 at 10:33 pm to Dumplin
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Dumplin


Darwin. Learn it. It's nature At work and it will always find a way.



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Posted by LaRon on 10/5 at 10:52 pm to Dumplin
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There are many potential consequences.

- Having fewer beds means having fewer cases available for training at any moment. That means less time and variety of exposure for training. It also means less hands on experience with various techniques and procedures. This has already effected medical students. They get much less hands-on experience during their surgery rotations especially, and there are far fewer medical rounds being conducted for second year students than the administration would like.

- Public-private partnerships move a lot of patients that would otherwise be in a public hospital into private hospitals. Private hospitals are much more risk averse, and will limit their exposure and liability by limiting the amount of hands-on experience for medical students.

- Reduction in funding will mean the outright elimination of residency positions.

The only way to learn in medicine is by doing, and these cuts are threatening to produce medical professionals that are not adequately trained.


so med students from LSU will be less competitive when applying for residency?

residency programs will look unfavorably upon the students coming from lsu because they know they have less experience?




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