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re: Jindal shutting down LSU hospital system in order to privatize itquote: You responded to the wrong person you fricking moron. Reply Back to Top |
| Exactly the only out of state person I knew at LSU-NO had a 33 MCAT but had to enter the MD/PhD program Reply Back to Top |
quote: You have NO IDEA what you're saying here. Reply Back to Top |
quote: Swing, and miss. Reply Back to Top |
quote: I love how people keep saying this mantra "privatization is more efficient" Guess what. These are TEACHING hospitals ie that medicine doctor these patients see is rounding for the 2nd and 3rd time on the same patient because they are getting taught. That surgery that normally takes 20 min is taking an hour and a half because its the residents first time to do it. The med student takes 20 min to sew a 5 inch incision because they dont know how to hold a needle driver and forceps much less throw a knot. By definition they are inefficient. Do you want that inefficiency done on you the private insurance patient? Didnt think so. This will dramatically water down the educational experience of medicine in LA. Reply Back to Top |
| Agree. It takes time to teach. In the process of teaching, you want to make sure the student gets it right and the patient gets the treatment they need. Efficacy should never be sacrificed for the sake of efficiency. I love hearing all of this efficiency crap from folks who don't have a clue in hell - our less than esteemed governor included. Reply Back to Top |
quote: How do you really feel? Reply Back to Top |
| maybe they should have "private" teaching hospitals. Reply Back to Top |
Posted by Lacour on 10/5 at 8:04 pm to makinskrilla I like the dying in a ditch option Not for me. Of course. I will be getting my treatments where the 1 percenters do. Reply Back to Top |
quote: Once again. What private patient would voluntarily let themselves get operated on/treated by a first time intern and resident? Theres a reason why most teaching hospitals treat indigent care and are public hospitals. Parkland and Ben Taub both perfect examples of this. Are there residencies at private hospitals? Yes. However the majority involve a public hospital. The only difference is that Louisiana runs their charity hospitals state wide whereas most other states do "county" hospitals. ETA: You aint gonna make money treating indigent medicaid patients at low efficiency. Thats why private hospitals send them away. This post was edited on 10/5 at 8:08 pm Reply Back to Top |
quote: dude sorry your parents made more choices, i really am, but its not my problem. im not asking people to make good decisions when they are 14-15 but by the time they are 18 everybody should realize what choices should be made to help them. Listen im not mad people are poor, there will always be poor, but most are there due to bad decisions both as a teenager and as an adult. In the end its none of my business though and I could care less I just dont want to have to give them my money that I work for. They didnt work for it, I did. I guess im an a-hole for asking everybody to pay for their own shelter, their health, their own food, their own everything. I know its a novel concept but personal responsibility is the direction this country needs to go in. quote: really, its wrong to believe that if the state is paying for something the payoff should be worth it? what do general studies major off to the state directly out of school that somebody with an associates in instrumentation or having trade doesnt? fact is the person with the associates or trade is much more valuable. same goes for all those majors i named. sorry but if you cant come out of school ready to contribute to the state then the government shouldnt pay for that university to have that major. quote: its sad that i believe the state shouldnt subsidize somebodies education that is majoring in a bull shite degree? well Im one sad mother fricker then. quote: why doesnt she take action and reschedule the surgery with somebody else? that would be the responsible choice. quote: Reply Back to Top |
quote: I just read your entire linked article. There was nothing in it which supports your thread's title. There was no mention of shutting down or privitizing the hospitals you listed. Do you have another link supporting what you are saying? Because the one you gave doesn't. Reply Back to Top |
quote: Sounds like med students might have to pay for the opportunity to learn. Reply Back to Top |
quote: As in the $20,000 a year in tuition they pay to LSU School of Medicine. There is no TOPS for medical school in Louisiana. Reply Back to Top |
| can someone give me a summary of how this will affect med school students, residents, etc Reply Back to Top |
| I love LSU and have an undergraduate degree from there. But I'm also very grateful to have graduate degrees from other institutions outside the State of Louisiana, because from of all of this, the value of my LSU degree unfortunately decreases more and more every day. LSU maybe be a football 'powerhouse,' but academically, outside of Louisiana, those diplomas aren't going to be worth much when Piyush is finished with that state. Reply Back to Top |
quote: He's selling off the hospitals to his big money political contributors and to further his future national political races, not to save money. We should all pretend not to be shocked when LSUS hospital is sold to a group owned by folks in Florida. Remember Florida? Jeb? W? Reply Back to Top |
quote: There are many potential consequences. - Having fewer beds means having fewer cases available for training at any moment. That means less time and variety of exposure for training. It also means less hands on experience with various techniques and procedures. This has already effected medical students. They get much less hands-on experience during their surgery rotations especially, and there are far fewer medical rounds being conducted for second year students than the administration would like. - Public-private partnerships move a lot of patients that would otherwise be in a public hospital into private hospitals. Private hospitals are much more risk averse, and will limit their exposure and liability by limiting the amount of hands-on experience for medical students. - Reduction in funding will mean the outright elimination of residency positions. The only way to learn in medicine is by doing, and these cuts are threatening to produce medical professionals that are not adequately trained. Reply Back to Top |
quote: Darwin. Learn it. It's nature At work and it will always find a way. Reply Back to Top |
quote: so med students from LSU will be less competitive when applying for residency? residency programs will look unfavorably upon the students coming from lsu because they know they have less experience? Reply Back to Top Refresh |
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