Why is it preferable to cut education and Healthcare spending rather than tax?
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Why is it preferable to cut education and Healthcare spending rather than tax?
Posted by Napoleon on 10/5 at 2:03 pm
I know a lot of people love how "responsible" Jindal is being cutting $500M from higher education and selling off the LSU system hospitals.
But why is this favorable as compared to just raising taxes?

Seems to me like education is severely lacking in this state, and I will say unions are a big fault here. And yes I get public schools are the suck. Even though, it just seems like cutting these programs will have a negative impact in years to come.

Another thing is, isn't the La budget balanced or close to it? Why do they need to privatize the charity hospitals, and cut college funding.


It just seems the the right wing voter wants to cut taxes at every corner. But it just seems that some things shouldn't be cut.

I know both systems are a bureaucratic mess, so reform them don't cut them.






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Posted by theunknownknight on 10/5 at 2:04 pm to Napoleon
Because we have spent more and more and more on both over the years and guess what...nothing has improved. In fact, things have gotten worse. yay...government

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Posted by Napoleon on 10/5 at 2:06 pm to theunknownknight
so reform then cut, don't just throw money at it.

I know government can be very inefficient. Doesn't mean its always inefficient.




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Posted by skidry on 10/5 at 2:07 pm to Napoleon
We could tax at 100% and everyone would be super smart and super healthy. Let's do it!!!


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Posted by Patrick O Rly on 10/5 at 2:08 pm to Napoleon
Diminishing returns.


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Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger on 10/5 at 2:11 pm to Napoleon
Jindal should have never repealed the Stelly Plan. It was actually working.


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Posted by theunknownknight on 10/5 at 2:12 pm to Napoleon
quote:

so reform then cut


why can't reform BE the actual cutting? Let the local level handle this stuff.

quote:

don't just throw money at it


I assume you won't be voting for Obama then, because that is ALL he has done.

quote:

I know government can be very inefficient. Doesn't mean its always inefficient.


History shows Government is inefficient 99.999% of the time. Here's an interesting fact to prove it:

Healthcare costs have gone of 2000% in the last 30-40 years. ridiculousness I agree, blame tort law.

With that said, in that same time frame Government spending has gone up 3000%.

So...why is it the government thinks it can reign in the spending of a area of the economy that has increased in cost at a rate of 50% slower than the government itself?


This post was edited on 10/5 at 2:13 pm

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Posted by THRILLHO on 10/5 at 2:16 pm to Napoleon
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so reform


Not really a big fan of his, but Jindal has already taken a huge step in the right direction with vouchers. But nationally, teachers unions fight that kind of thing, as well as any regulation that could hold them responsible for their poor work.






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Posted by Bandits on 10/5 at 2:17 pm to theunknownknight
Jindal's policy decision are very short sighted. I guess he assumed he will have a cabinet position in President Romney's staff.


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Posted by CarrolltonTiger on 10/5 at 2:20 pm to Bandits
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Another thing is, isn't the La budget balanced or close to it? Why do they need to privatize the charity hospitals, and cut college funding.


The budget has to be balanced, and cuts have to be made to balance it.

What taxes do you suggest be raised and do you understand what has to be done to raise them?



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Posted by RealityTiger on 10/5 at 2:28 pm to Bandits
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Jindal's policy decision are very short sighted
Actually, it's very much the opposite. What he's doing now is what every governor before him was afraid to do but knew it needed to be done. But because it doesn't bring about instantaneous results, people think it's a waste of time and dumb. However, it needs to be done either now or ten years down the road at a much greater scale for the next "Jindal" to come along.



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Posted by navy on 10/5 at 2:33 pm to Napoleon
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But why is this favorable as compared to just raising taxes?



Because a shi*load of people don't pay fricken taxes ... and those of us that do have gotten fed the frick up with higher taxes and JACK SQUAT to show for it.


Since the schools are so damn shitty that I have to fork out a ton to send my kids to private school ... I'd just as soon not waste any more of my damn money on a failed system.


Reform but don't cut? GMAFB.

How about this? UNFRICK YOURSELF before you ask for more money.



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Posted by ljhog on 10/5 at 3:14 pm to Napoleon
quote:

cutting $500M from higher education

because too many people graduating with worthless degrees

quote:

selling off the LSU system hospitals

private sector is more efficient



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Posted by BugAC on 10/5 at 3:16 pm to Napoleon
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But why is this favorable as compared to just raising taxes?


Let's see, well Jindal has run Louisiana into a surplus heading into next year. And he did it all, without costing taxpayers more money.

Why give more money to a government who has increasingly received more tax money every year, and has produced the same results of the past?



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Posted by BugAC on 10/5 at 3:18 pm to Napoleon
quote:

And yes I get public schools are the suck. Even though, it just seems like cutting these programs will have a negative impact in years to come.



Well increasing funds into public education has not worked. Spending on public education has increased 300% over the past 30 years and the test scores have not changed, and in some areas, gotten worse.



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Posted by Catman88 on 10/5 at 3:21 pm to Napoleon
Hard to answer the question without pointing out that he HAS to balance the budget and there is a shite load of things that he cant touch to begin with that Im sure he would love to.


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Posted by wickowick on 10/5 at 3:24 pm to Catman88
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there is a shite load of things that he cant touch to begin with that Im sure he would love to.


Yep, lots of programs are protected that can't be touched so he is limited in what can be cut.



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Posted by Radiojones on 10/5 at 3:41 pm to Napoleon
Lack of money is not the problem with our education system.


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Posted by navy on 10/5 at 3:43 pm to Radiojones
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Lack of money is not the problem with our education system



No damn way because most private school pay way less per student ... pay the teachers less ... etc ... and have way better results.



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Posted by Elcid96 on 10/5 at 3:45 pm to Napoleon
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so reform then cut


By cutting, it forces them to reform.




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