Why do the idiots keep saying the coaches and front office admitted it?
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Why do the idiots keep saying the coaches and front office admitted it?
Posted by lsutigers1992 on 6/20 at 10:08 am
They keep playing the "they admitted it when they took their punishment lying down" card? Anybody who understands how this works knows the coaches lied down was because they don't have a union protecting and standing up for them. The players do and they're making the stand. Everything else is spin and misinformation. And they just keep spitting that bull shite out.


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Posted by Puck82 on 6/20 at 10:21 am to lsutigers1992
Stop reading that shite. It will make you feel better The other fans want the saints to be guilty. They heard what they wanted to hear. Hence the tweet by Drew.


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Posted by Me on 6/20 at 10:38 am to Puck82
Exactly. They only hear what they want to hear. Take solace in the fact that they will be devastated after each game the Saints win this year.


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Posted by Chad504boy on 6/20 at 10:39 am to Me
i love polian saying how goodell is basically a nice guy willing to hear the player's side and story when this whole time he hasn't asked them one time what the frick was going on.


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Posted by MinnesotaTiger on 6/20 at 10:42 am to lsutigers1992
I was wearing a Saints shirt the other day in downtown Milwaukee and some hot dog vending a-hole in a Miami Heat tshirt started giving me shite about "bounties". I was like "what planet am I on?"


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Posted by Meateye on 6/20 at 11:02 am to MinnesotaTiger
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MinnesotaTiger


You are Alejandro arent you?



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Posted by Me on 6/20 at 11:15 am to Meateye
I can honestly say that I haven't worn any Saints gear since the news broke. Not because I am embarassed or think what they may have done was wrong but because I don't want to talk to random morons about it.


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Posted by goatmilker on 6/20 at 11:32 am to lsutigers1992
Po say answer in question you ask. Now eat your noodles.


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Posted by Breesus on 6/20 at 2:35 pm to goatmilker
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Po say answer in question you ask. N



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Posted by Bayou on 6/20 at 6:09 pm to MinnesotaTiger
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I was wearing a Saints shirt the other day in downtown Milwaukee and some hot dog vending a-hole in a Miami Heat tshirt started giving me shite about "bounties". I was like "what planet am I on?"

I had a similar experience when an old man started spouting about the Saints are thugs. He asked if I was a fan bacause I had a gold Saints on. I told him I just bought the hat and became a Saints fan because I like to see people get hurt and killed in football games. He stopped talking!



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Posted by Breesus on 6/20 at 7:13 pm to Bayou
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I told him I just bought the hat and became a Saints fan because I like to see people get hurt and killed in football games.





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Posted by Bayou on 6/20 at 7:20 pm to Breesus
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Why do the idiots keep saying the coaches and front office admitted it?

I feel they admitted to pay for performance - nothing more. It's looking pretty solid (especially with Shanle's admission) there was a pay for performance. It seems the NFL got giddy and thought they'd extrapolate this admission into something they could show as evidence of 'effort' to make the NFL safer in future suits.

Everything they have put forth publicly, however, has been a pay to injure theme. I would love nothing more than to see Ginsberg/Vilma body slam Goodell in their suit. I think Goodell knows he's screwed and that's why he blew a gasket with Ginsberg the other day.



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Posted by LJBurton on 6/20 at 7:54 pm to Bayou
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I feel they admitted to pay for performance - nothing more


I think it is fairly well established now as fact that there was a Pay for Performance program.

It also seems pretty obvious to me that within that program were payoffs for big hits, which included "cart offs", "knockouts" and "whacks". It is not a big leap to assume that a "cart off" very likely meant someone on the other team got hurt.

Doesn't take a genius to connect the dots to "Pay for Injury".

It is a leap, but a very small leap, and intent is absolutely irrelevant. Someone got hurt, and someone got paid for the hit. It's really pretty simple. The want to defend the home team runs very, very deep. I get that, but anyone who thinks that the Saints front office and these 4 players are completely innocent of any wrongdoing has his head buried very deeply in the sand.



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Posted by Bayou on 6/20 at 8:08 pm to LJBurton
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Someone got hurt, and someone got paid for the hit. It's really pretty simple.

Simple? Really? So, you are on record saying the voices of the Saints are lieing about the fact there wasn't such a program? What evidence might you show us to somewhat prove your case, LJBurton?

To quote Joe Vitt, "The bylaws of the National Football League supersede the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights."
Word!


This post was edited on 6/20 at 8:24 pm

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Posted by LJBurton on 6/20 at 8:39 pm to Bayou
I don't have to prove my case, Bayou. Neither does Goodell. That was the whole point of my post. If Goodell believes there was "Pay for Injury", since he has absolute authority as granted to him under the latest CBA, then that is all that matters. The players ceded that authority to him.

Look, I completely agree that Goodell is way out of line with these punishments, but that's an entirely different topic.



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Posted by LSForYou on 6/20 at 8:43 pm to lsutigers1992
Because

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New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton and general manager Mickey Loomis took responsibility for a bounty program in which the National Football League team's players received money for injuring opponents. "We acknowledge that the violations disclosed by the NFL during their investigation of our club happened under our watch," the two men said in a statement sent by the team.


A few of hundreds of links to the admittance.
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Posted by TigerBait1127 on 6/20 at 8:45 pm to LJBurton
No one here is arguing against that. You basically just created a false argument just so you could put it down.

While he has the right to suspend the players we also have the right to call him out on it



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Posted by Bayou on 6/20 at 8:45 pm to LJBurton
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I don't have to prove my case, Bayou. Neither does Goodell. That was the whole point of my post. If Goodell believes there was "Pay for Injury", since he has absolute authority as granted to him under the latest CBA, then that is all that matters. The players ceded that authority to him. Look, I completely agree that Goodell is way out of line with these punishments, but that's an entirely different topic.

How did you get to that from this
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Doesn't take a genius to connect the dots to "Pay for Injury".

You must be the genius, right? Connect the dots for me - I'm dumb.



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Posted by EastBankTiger on 6/20 at 9:13 pm to lsutigers1992
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They keep playing the "they admitted it when they took their punishment lying down" card? Anybody who understands how this works knows the coaches lied down was because they don't have a union protecting and standing up for them. The players do and they're making the stand. Everything else is spin and misinformation. And they just keep spitting that bull shite out.


In light of the continuing shoddy evidence, it's all that most haters can say now.



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Posted by LJBurton on 6/20 at 9:21 pm to Bayou
I already connected them for you. You just chose not to follow along.

Here it is one more time ... try to read more slowly, that might help ...

The Saints had a Pay for Performance program. Even the Homers admit this.

The term Performance included things like forced fumbles, interceptions, big hits and "cart offs".

"Cart off" very clearly means that the opposing player was removed from the field of play by a Cart -- meaning said opposing player was injured sufficient to need assistance in getting off of the field.

Thus, players received extra pay for big hits which resulted in injuries to opposing players.
I can't make it any clearer than this.



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