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Employee Polygraph Protection Act of 1988
Posted by Jahel on 6/11 at 3:48 pm
WTF is this?

were people in 88 afraid of being caught lying and cheating?

LINK

Are the machines discriminatory? Are Asian women more likely to have false positives and would somehow be biased against them?

Why can't all private employers value honesty when screening candidates?


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Posted by NoHoTiger on 6/11 at 4:16 pm to Jahel
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Are the machines discriminatory?

Not discriminatory, but also not reliable. Do you want to lose a job based on a false information by an unreliable machine? I don't
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Why can't all private employers value honesty when screening candidates?

I would think all private and public employers would value honesty...just use a reliable method when screening for it.



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Posted by LSURulzSEC on 6/11 at 5:08 pm to NoHoTiger
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Not discriminatory, but also not reliable. Do you want to lose a job based on a false information by an unreliable machine? I don't


there not the box machines anymore, they are computers...I had a former member of the CIA that use to give test to drug smugglers and cartel members down in South America back in the 90's that now runs a polygraph testing in Houston give me one...

they will know if you are lying or telling the truth or completely fricked up in the head...

that "machine" helped in proving my innocence...




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Posted by NoHoTiger on 6/11 at 5:22 pm to LSURulzSEC
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that "machine" helped in proving my innocence

good for you...glad it worked out for you...i still don't agree with them being used for employment purposes.. just my opinion...feel free to agree or disagree.



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Posted by los angeles tiger on 6/11 at 5:29 pm to NoHoTiger
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good for you...glad it worked out for you...i still don't agree with them being used for employment purposes.. just my opinion...feel free to agree or disagree.



How about meeting people for kinky sex rendezvous?


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there not the box machines anymore




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Posted by LSURulzSEC on 6/11 at 5:43 pm to NoHoTiger
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i still don't agree with them being used for employment purposes.


for employment purposes no I do not agree with that unless its dealing with national security or something of that nature...

I took one back in '86 when I was 16 back in high school working at a grocery story as a stocker...lol

I do believe its time to start using them in court rooms in court cases...if they are going to bring people up flimsy circumstantial evidence then polygraphs should be admissible...

I will say this to anyone, God forbid you have to go through what I did...however, if you have to take one DO NOT take one by the police department...you get a third party WELL TRAINED QUALIFIED WHO KNOWS WHAT THE frick THEY ARE DOING person to give you one like I did...I paid a $1000 for my test and it was worth every cent.

After the test I spoke with him a while and he showed me how advance these test are and explained to me how and why you will not fool these polygraphs...you will be either telling the truth or lying...if there are questionable results with the patterns there is something that is unstable about you and his reports will state to all parties that you need a psychiatric examination...but you will not be able to cheat the test...




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Posted by LSURulzSEC on 6/11 at 5:44 pm to los angeles tiger
what is so funny about them not being box machines?



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Posted by los angeles tiger on 6/11 at 5:54 pm to LSURulzSEC
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what is so funny about them not being box machines?


Nothing except I was commenting regarding my question to my friend NoHo. Read it and it'll make sense.



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Posted by Jahel on 6/11 at 6:41 pm to los angeles tiger
could they make a polygraph reader with USB interface?


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Posted by Elcid96 on 6/11 at 8:17 pm to LSURulzSEC
The computer/machine is just a tool for an interview. They are a great tool but they are not always reliable. Period


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Posted by LSURulzSEC on 6/11 at 8:34 pm to Elcid96
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They are a great tool but they are not always reliable. Period


nothing is 100% reliable period, yet they are still used as tools to prove innocence or guilt...



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Posted by BRhuskyfan80 on 6/11 at 8:38 pm to LSURulzSEC
This board is against regulating what employers can require as a condition of employment even if it's to protect the workers.. am I right, pro-right-to-workers?


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Posted by TigerPride10 on 6/11 at 8:50 pm to NoHoTiger
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i still don't agree with them being used for employment purposes


I had to take one a few weeks ago to land my current job. I'll have to randomly take one whenever asked so long as I'm working here.

IMO, a "normal" 9-5 gig shouldn't need a polygraph. There are too many invasive and, at times, ambiguous questions during the 3 hour test. A simple background check should be enough.



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Posted by BRhuskyfan80 on 6/11 at 8:51 pm to TigerPride10
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I had to take one a few weeks ago to land my current job. I'll have to randomly take one whenever asked so long as I'm working here.


What kind of job? Was it management, or access to sensitive data?



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Posted by Elcid96 on 6/11 at 8:54 pm to LSURulzSEC
They are not always pass fail sorry. Also if there isn't pass fail that doesn't mean the person needs a shrink. The machine is an interviewing tool. There are people who have false positives and vice versa. Some people fail bc they change their story while taking the polygraph and that is what makes them fail not the machines findings.


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Posted by TigerPride10 on 6/11 at 8:55 pm to BRhuskyfan80
It is the kind of job in which a polygraph should be administered. After taking one, I don't see the reason why most employers would need it in a pre-employment screening.


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Posted by BRhuskyfan80 on 6/11 at 8:56 pm to Jahel
I would fail that polygraph for sure. I'm a manipulative beotch.

What kind of hard-hitting questions do they ask?



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Posted by TigerPride10 on 6/11 at 9:00 pm to BRhuskyfan80
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What kind of hard-hitting questions do they ask?


The big, seemingly important questions, were straightforward and easy to answer. However, the "small" questions are what I had to scratch my head for. Like, "have you ever told a lie?" You think to yourself, "if I answer yes, will they think I'm a compulsive liar and can't be trusted?" Or, "If I answer no, they will surely know I was lying."

I made a thread on the OT about a month ago right before I took it to get advice going in. Several people on there have had more experience with the exam than I have, and one poster even worked for a company that administers the test. See if you can dig it up for more info.


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Posted by LSURulzSEC on 6/11 at 9:07 pm to Elcid96
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They are not always pass fail sorry.


yes and I stated such...


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Also if there isn't pass fail that doesn't mean the person needs a shrink.


I'm not talking about people taking simple interviews for jobs I was referring to the things I was taking it for with a ex-CIA agent that does nothing but polygraphs on crime cases and explaining to me how things are with him...

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Some people fail bc they change their story while taking the polygraph and that is what makes them fail not the machines findings.



yes and the "machine" will help prove this...





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Posted by Jim Rockford on 6/11 at 9:11 pm to LSURulzSEC
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they will know if you are lying or telling the truth or completely fricked up in the head...


We do not need to be giving employers that kind of power over employees/potential employees. And I say that as an employer.



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