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| re: Soooo, Zimmerman was injured... If Zimmerman's head was split you must acquit. Hey it worked for O.J.  Reply • Back to Top |
| And the innocent young black kid with tea and Skittles had injuries to his knuckles. DEFINITELY a "hate crime." Reply • Back to Top |
quote: So you deny that the media had no role in the way people feel about this case? I certainly blame the media for making an local issue and everday occurrence in this country an issue intended to racially divide this country further. I hope he is innocent so they look like the jackasses they are. If he is guilty, then I am fine with that too, so long as he was presumed to have a fair trial. There is plenty of blame go around in this case, so quit acting like it isn't an issue. This post was edited on 5/16 at 8:19 am Reply • Back to Top |
quote: With the "Left Wing" this story never would have gotten much attention outside of the local media. The MSM wanted a racial story and were drooling over themselves to have at this regardless of what Zimmerman actually did going as far as to mask his actual ethnicity. That is a fact regardless of the outcome of this trial. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Yep.  Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Well that means it's impossible to ever find out, no? Reply • Back to Top |
| Btw, when is the hearing supposed to happen when they said there was a real possibility that the judge would throw the case out??? Reply • Back to Top |
| "However, the prosecution contends that Zimmerman instigated the confrontation after profiling the teen, who was walking home after buying skittles and ice tea. They prosecution says Martin was breaking no laws and was not disturbing anyone as he walked back to his father's girlfriend's home." I realize that this is from a news report, but the prosecution simply must have more than this or what the hell are you even having a trial about. I don't there is much debate about anything in the above quotation, but none of it is relevant to whether Zimmerman acted in self defense. We pretty much know that Zimmerman acted incorrectly (or even foolishly, or maybe even in a prejudiced way) in following/approaching Martin, but that is not illegal. the prosecution better have something better than this (e.g., if that really was Martin screaming "help"). Reply • Back to Top |
quote: I think its more and more likely that it was Zimmerman screaming "Help" with the medical reports coming out. I think his story that Martin was on top of him, beating the shite out of him is very likely seeing that he did have a broken nose and Martin had bruises on his hands. I still don't see how the prosecutor in her right mind could bring a 2nd degree murder charge if she had all of this evidence at her disposal. Reply • Back to Top |
Posted by McLemore on 5/16 at 11:09 am to ChineseBandit58 quote: good points. on another note, is it just me or do all the MSM headlines about this emphasize that the injuries were sustained AFTER the shooting and documented the day AFTER the incident? I wasn't looking for this at all but it stood out and i immediately thought that the implication was that there was some possibility that he got a friend to beat the shite out of him after the shooting. Reply • Back to Top |
| The second degree murder charge is starting to look ridiculously weak. The manslaughter charge woudl make more sense, but from what I have read, the State is going to have a hard time with anything. In the absence of a witness to counter Zimm's account of what happened, there just isn't much proof there, at least that I know of. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: I think it was an easy choice for her... she read the political winds and thought she had a better chance of scoring points by indicting, and then deliberately chose a criminal level she knew wouldn't stick. She gets her hurrahs, the black community sees that she tried, Zimmerman walks, everybody wins! Trouble, though, is that she seemed to forget the Andrew Nifong lesson. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: I still contend, that nobody knows all the evidence yet and circumstances. However, the above statement certainly seems more and more likely of what might of happened. There should be no "sides" to this case, only the search for what really happened. I just found it odd the way the prosecutor acted during the announcement of the decision to charge Zimmerman. It just didn't seem professional. Reply • Back to Top |
| I'm still trying to figure out why some of you think it's ok to stalk someone with a gun because you don't like the way they look (after you've informed the police). Then, when you confront that person--who has done nothing other than look "bad" to you--you basically get your arse kicked. So now, it's OK to blow that person away because your mouth wrote a check your arse couldn't cash. Nobody seems to remember that if GZ had simply hung up the phone and gone about his business after he called the police (Who were probably delayed because of an insurance/seat belt check point), none of this would have happened. GZ was the instigator. He was the adult. He had the weapon. It is his fault that Martin is dead. Whether or not he is found guilty in a criminal court, he will almost certainly be found guilty in a wrongful death lawsuit ( burden of proof is much lower). He will have to pay the Martin family for the rest of his life. Reply • Back to Top |
| It has nothing to do with what you or I think. It only matters how the law applies to the facts. Eta: and nobody here has gone through discovery or heard testimony...anyone saying he will be guilty criminally or civilly is just hoping for that result based upon their personal bias developed with a limited knowledge of the evidence. Including you. This post was edited on 5/16 at 3:21 pm Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Yeah, Im sure he had the gun out, waving it around... :roll eyes: Like it or not, there reportedly had been burglaries in the neighborhood and Zimmerman being the neighborhood watch douchebag thought it suspicious someone was walking the neighborhood in the rain. Oh, the horror. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Zimmerman licensed to carry. He probably always legally had a gun on his person. You want him to take it off his person when he follows what he thinks is a suspicious character? quote: IMHO, confronting TM, or even getting out of his car, was a HUGE mistake on Zimm's part. I don't know why the situation escalated to a physical one. Its certainly possible that he is responsible for that in large part as well. After he was getting pummeled? Its quite possible he just drew and fired on instinct. I don't know. quote: All he had to do was stay in his car. He left a position of relative safety. He probably didn't identify himself as neighborhood watch properly, and he probably didn't do everything he could to keep physical distance between himself and TM. All less than intelligent moves in a dangerous (he thought) situation. quote: Both people had ample opportunity to avoid this. GZ could have stayed in his car, or broke off the following or perhaps handle things differently when they got closer together... TM could have hoofed it to the house, easy peasy. They are both at fault. Only one is alive to face the consequences of his particular hand in the incident however. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Absolutely. I think we should all wait until the trial is over before making judgment. This post was edited on 5/16 at 3:36 pm Reply • Back to Top |
quote:  I am still trying to figure out how some of you have wonder twin powers and get to go back in the past and see what happened. Tell me are you the wonder twin that turned into a bucket of water or an eagle? Or should I say..Troll! This post was edited on 5/16 at 3:55 pm Reply • Back to Top |
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