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re: Contesting an Appraisal
Posted by BFIV on 5/9 at 9:12 pm to Broke
I TRIED to contest an appraisal when we were converting our construction loan to conventional. We had a dipstick for an appraiser. Due to the HVCC rules (Thank you, Mario Cuomo...not), we were not allowed to even speak with the appraiser. Yes, we paid for the appraisal, but the mortgage company ordered it so he would/could talk to only them. He made so many mistakes that it was almost comical. However, the comedy faded fast as our conversion deadline loomed and his appraisal was WAY off base. No reasonable comps, the comps he did list weren't even located at the address or area he had listed, he didn't sign the appraisal himself and much more. You can't choose your appraiser any more if you are going FHA, VA, FnM, etc. Their names are put in a hat and one is drawn out, so to speak. You could get the same appraiser two times in a row for all you know. The bank which financed our construction loan was flabbergasted at his low ball appraisal. The builder was in great disagreement with him, also. We could have requested another appraisal, paid for it, but that wouldn't have helped us any. His appraisal was on record and the underwriters wouldn't question it. We finally financed with the credit union which utilized their own in house appraiser and didn't involve any banks or mortgage companies. But we were still out the initial appraisal fee. This is the primary reason we haven't refinanced. I tell these finance companies and mortgage brokers that if they want to pay for the appraisal, then we'll go for it. I will not waste time and money dealing with these incompetent appraisers again.


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Posted by 19thHole on 5/10 at 10:25 am to Broke
you can thank Barney Frank and the HVCC/Dodd-Frank Act for your situation.

seriously



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Posted by hawkeye007 on 5/10 at 1:37 pm to 19thHole
i would also like to thank Frank and his a-hole buddies for telling me how much money i am allowed to make under thier new rules.


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Posted by Pierre on 5/10 at 1:42 pm to hawkeye007
The lender-appraisal game is a joke.


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Posted by Broke on 5/10 at 3:44 pm to hawkeye007
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if you are under 85% LTV it might be worth it to you. the cost of buying out the PMI can be financed in your loan. what bank did you go thru for the loan?


I am at 83.6% I am using US bank. I didn't know you could buy out. But after reading this thread I think I may try the credit union.



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Posted by BFIV on 5/10 at 3:59 pm to 19thHole
Not trying to hijack this thread, but the subject at hand (HVCC rules) are part and parcel of the downturn in new home construction as well as existing home sales. Too many incompetent appraisers and bad appraisals have resulted in a strangle hold on home financing. I've seen it first hand.


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Posted by MikeBRLA on 5/10 at 4:46 pm to DieSmilen
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My fault,

I wasn't thinking of a house that actually caught on fire and subsequently sold for less. I was thinking more of a property that sold for less due to the seller needing money fast.(family that needs to settle estate, or someone who inherits a house and lives out of state and is fine taking a lot less just to get rid of it)


I wasn't talking about an actual fire either. A fire sale is just what you described (a sale that needs to be made fast). But that is still completely different than a not at arms length transaction (a sale between family members for example).




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Posted by DieSmilen on 5/10 at 6:33 pm to MikeBRLA

I get the family sale to each other but I also thought that it had to do with fair market value. If a seller is willing to sell it for far less than market value and its not a short sale, is it really an arm's length transaction?




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