Why is the GBP so strong against the USD?
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Why is the GBP so strong against the USD?
Posted by PenguinNinja on 5/9 at 11:05 pm
I know, I know...the Chinese own us, and all that noise.

But fundamentally, the GBP has been MUCH stronger than the USD since at least 2005 (the first time I checked). Why is it that the USD is so worthless relative to the GBP?

What are the British doing to keep their currency strong that we're not?

FTR (and in case it isn't obvious), I don't know shite about this stuff, so go easy on me.



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Posted by kfizzle85 on 5/9 at 11:28 pm to PenguinNinja
I have an answer, but I will wait to see what BennyandtheInkjets says first.


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Posted by NC_Tigah on 5/10 at 12:38 am to PenguinNinja
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Why is the GBP so strong against the USD?
I'm not sure it is. What led to that impression?



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Posted by LSURussian on 5/10 at 7:16 am to PenguinNinja
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Why is it that the USD is so worthless relative to the GBP?
Define 'worthless.'



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Posted by greenhead11 on 5/10 at 8:33 am to PenguinNinja
The GBP has lost 18% against the USD in the last 5 years- I'm not sure I call that strong... Are you talking from a historical point of view?


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Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets on 5/10 at 8:52 am to PenguinNinja
I have an answer, but I will wait to see what kfizz says first.


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Posted by LSUAfro on 5/10 at 9:14 am to BennyAndTheInkJets
The suspense is killing me.


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Posted by kfizzle85 on 5/10 at 9:33 am to BennyAndTheInkJets


Srsly tho. To other posters comments, I was thinking of it in more of a historical context, not specifically the last 2 years or so.



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Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets on 5/10 at 9:54 am to kfizzle85
Alright, I'll blink.

In a very basic context ignroing everything at the margin and cross currency correlations: GBP/USD is one of the most liquid currency contracts you can get. Its controlled by money supply, economic strength, and since finance is 10% of UK GDP and most most financial contracts for the longest time were in GBP or USD, interest rates are a huge factor.

Averages since 1992
10-Year Treasury - 4.86
10-Year Guilt - 5.30

Fed Rate - 3.20
BOE Rate - 4.54




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Posted by kfizzle85 on 5/10 at 9:58 am to BennyAndTheInkJets
This was going to be my OP verbatim: "outside of economic factors, basic supply/demand, driven largely by London being the banking capital of the world."


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Posted by LSUtoOmaha on 5/10 at 10:11 am to kfizzle85
Can you clarify the reasoning for the correlation between the higher interest rate of England's "treasuries" and the strength of the pound?

Maybe I am being stupid, but if England was the banking capital of the world and its currency had a higher demand, wouldn't the value of the currency go up and the interest rates go down?


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Posted by kfizzle85 on 5/10 at 10:29 am to LSUtoOmaha
Assuming you're operating under the all-time favorite line of all college econ professor "ceteris paribus," yes. IRL there's central banks and they don't much care about that.


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Posted by foshizzle on 5/10 at 10:40 am to kfizzle85
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Assuming you're operating under the all-time favorite line of all college econ professor "ceteris paribus," yes.


This.

For example, right now a lot of people around the world are nervous and so they buy US Treasuries, instead of gilts.



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Posted by greenhead11 on 5/10 at 10:49 am to foshizzle
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For example, right now a lot of people around the world are nervous and so they buy US Treasuries, instead of gilts.


Which I fail to understand since you literally loose i think 1% on a 10yrT- bond after inflation and gains tax

I would rather go park my money in SGD or HKD and wait for the Chinese to free float the Yuan and watch it and the HKD take off.



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Posted by LSUtoOmaha on 5/10 at 11:31 am to greenhead11
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and wait for the Chinese to free float the Yuan


Are they actually going to willingly do this?



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Posted by LSUtoOmaha on 5/10 at 11:32 am to foshizzle
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For example, right now a lot of people around the world are nervous and so they buy US Treasuries, instead of gilts.


Even though the underlying currency is supposedly stronger?


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Posted by kfizzle85 on 5/10 at 11:42 am to LSUtoOmaha
Not any time soon IMO.


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Posted by kfizzle85 on 5/10 at 11:43 am to LSUtoOmaha
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Even though the underlying currency is supposedly stronger?


That's pretty debatable.



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Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets on 5/10 at 12:31 pm to LSUtoOmaha
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Even though the underlying currency is supposedly stronger?


Strength of a currency isn't the value but rather the recent and expected change. If I was forced to make a trade at this point in time I'd be short the pound.



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Posted by greenhead11 on 5/10 at 12:50 pm to BennyAndTheInkJets
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short the pound


I'd rather be short the EUR. If people seek safe haven in Europe I think the GPB could rise against the EUR. In either case if I was in a European currency it'd be the Swiss Franc or Norwegian Krone.

Oh and long on Yen short. That country has like a 200% debt/GDP


This post was edited on 5/10 at 12:52 pm

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