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re: Wall Street Journal: Why College Football should be bannedquote: i don't disagree with the latter point. programs who aren't that competitive economically do hurt the schools by siphoning money from the general fund the first point is utter nonsense though, on multiple levels 1. why does he hate giving collegiate experiences to inner city blacks? eliminating football will do just this 2. does he honestly think that college is what prepares most kids for the "new economic order"? Reply • Back to Top |
quote: i don't know if i can stomach 7 more pages of a new yorker article, but gladwell loves to use single anecdotes to "prove" his thesis. the first page being all about kyle turley seems to be his common set up Reply • Back to Top |
quote: This isn't going to be your best argument for keeping college football around. The schools that draw applicnats on account of college football will draw fewer applicants, and this means that schools that do not draw applicnats on account of college football will begin to drawn more applicants (the ones that weren't going to LSU or UT just because of CFB). At the end of the day, nobody really gives a shite about this outcome. The academic prestige of LSU vis a vis La. Tech is not a compelling national interest. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: How much Gladwell do you read? That's his style. He starts with an anecdote, then brings in supporting evidence to show broader application of what was illustrated in the anecdote. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: being in the SEC kind of affects how we see the total picture. many (most?) football programs do not bring in revenue and require subsidizing from the general fund Reply • Back to Top |
quote:Possibly, but there are a lot of schools where college football is a major moneymaker or has the potential to be one. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Well, I can certainly see an argument questioning the wisdom of that. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: yep. If there weren't the opportunity for even the smaller schools to make a shitload of money you wouldn't be seeing UAB, UTSA, Texas St, and whatever the other 2 schools moving up from 1AA to 1A next year. College athletics as a whole have done far more to help both individuals and universities than to harm them. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Even if he thinks it should, football has nothing to do with the declining quality of education. Lowering standards and catering to every PC/Multi cultural fad is what is not preparing kids for the "new economic order". Reply • Back to Top |
quote: You may be able to make an argument that professional club teams would take over for colleges to pay these athletes to hone their skills before the NFL (and therefore provide income for sustaining themselves/paying for an education). However, if you are liberal doucher, this should terrify you as you would be pulling a shitload of minorities off college campuses, since many would never step foot on one if not for their athletic acumen. This post was edited on 5/6 at 4:15 pm Reply • Back to Top |
quote: but he only discusses the evidence that supports his side and he typically ignores contradictory evidence Reply • Back to Top |
quote: oh i agree i just don't really care that athletes are often on a different level than regular students. if they don't take full advantage of their opportunities, i just don't give a shite (as long as they're not disrupting or negatively affecting others). giving them the opportunity is magnitudes better than removing that opportunity Reply • Back to Top |
| Does he suppor the banning of all sports as well as extracariculars such as music, theatre and the arts? If not he is a hipocrite. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: This is retarded. People major in music. People major in theatre. People major in the arts. You can't major in football. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: To a certain extent, of course, He's writing a piece for the New Yorker, not for a peer-reviewed medical imaging technical journal. He has to craft a narrative. Reply • Back to Top |
| We should also ban Russian women from playing tennis. Reply • Back to Top |
quote:  Do you think those kids are experiencing college in a meaningful way? Let's subsidize a sports program so some gifted athletes will get to visit a college campus. :lmao: If inner city kids getting to college is the problem, there are a lot of better solutions than sending only athletically gifted kids to take bull shite courses and play sports. I don't expect anyone on this board to even comprehend the idea of the article. But making CFB a semi pro league designed to make money, and leaving academia to colleges isn't an absurd idea. Some schools make money? Most don't What about the kids? Gifts ones will still slay pussy in the semis and still not get a college degree What about school branding / marketing? A student shouldn't be choosing an ACADEMIC institution for its ATHLETIC program Reply • Back to Top |
| frick that noise I am Houston sports fan so I am screwed If lsu goes under Reply • Back to Top |
| Spoken like a true Progressive. This guy is going to get a Pulitzer Prize or, at least, a job at the NY or LA Times. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: so do. quote: I'm not sure what this means. quote: This is a generalization. Some do take advantage of the opportunity and get an educations, obviously some do not. quote: I agree with this, its not absurd or new. quote: No schools make money off of most sports, why is he not calling for a ban on college golf or volleyball? quote: should and reality are different things sometimes, but the 2 are not mutually exclusive. Reply • Back to Top • Refresh |
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