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re: Michael Bradley to AS Roma?
Posted by wm72 on 5/2 at 9:18 pm to BobLoblaw
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What would you describe as Gago's strengths? He's never really seemed like he's particularly good at any part of the game from what I've seen.


Geometry and measuring the flow of the game. On his best days he is absolutely world class in his timing of passing, his positioning off the ball. He makes everything flow. I know this sounds a bit cryptic but it's really that more than any single skill set though he's pretty technically excellent as well.


The criticism, of course, is that he has his really bad days where he simply gets everything wrong. His form has been the biggest factor in Roma's wildly inconsistent season from both sides.

The highs have been so good though that I hope he gets a bit more time.




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Posted by BleedPurpleGold on 5/2 at 9:22 pm to joey barton
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There was an article from a Roma themed site comparing Bradley to De Rossi posted on Bigsoccer, but it was in Italian.


If you want to post the link I'll translate.

Or I'm sure wm72 would be happy to also.


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Posted by BobLoblaw on 5/2 at 9:24 pm to wm72
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Geometry and measuring the flow of the game. On his best days he is absolutely world class in his timing of passing, his positioning off the ball. He makes everything flow. I know this sounds a bit cryptic but it's really that more than any single skill set though he's pretty technically excellent as well.


I can see why he's a good fit then. In a 4-3-3 it's always nice to have a smart player that will just keep the game moving in the midfield 3. After all, you don't need 3 guys who all want the ball and want to play make all the time. To me, thats one of the big reasons teams fail to adapt to the 4-3-3, you've got to have players who just want to take a touch and move the ball on. He's just never seemed particularly technically sound to me with his passing or his vision. I'm sure part of that had to do with not playing regularly for a long time though.



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Posted by wm72 on 5/2 at 9:41 pm to BobLoblaw
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one of the big reasons teams fail to adapt to the 4-3-3, you've got to have players who just want to take a touch and move the ball on.


That's a great point.

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He's just never seemed particularly technically sound to me with his passing or his vision. I'm sure part of that had to do with not playing regularly for a long time though.


He's really extremely smooth on the ball and like you said loves the one touches to change flow or move someone into space.

His biggest problem has been that he seems to either be completely in rhythm or completely out of it: It's either a symphony of casual flicks that break down the opposing defense or ones straight to a defender in space that breakdown our own. Not much middle ground.


I hope it's rust too but maybe that's why he's for sale in the first place.







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Posted by joey barton on 5/2 at 9:51 pm to BleedPurpleGold
LINK

Thanks



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Posted by wm72 on 5/2 at 10:28 pm to joey barton
Well, it's really just a breakdown of stats with no insight but here it is:



They could have easily become team mates last summer, in Giallorosso obviously, but instead the market transported one midfielder to the court of Mimmo Di Carlo.

Daniele De Rossi and Michael Bradley are girders of their national teams and midfield leaders of their respective club teams; Capitan Futuro has been capped 71 times and score 10 goals while Chievo's regista has worn the stars and stripes 62 times, at only 24 years old, and scored 9 times.





The Giallorosso De Rossi is on the verge of his 279th appearance in Serie A, all while wearing the Roma shirt. Micheal, considering he's from the class of '87, has already experienced a diversity of leagues before arriving in Verona: NY MetroStars (Stati Uniti), Heerenveen (Olanda), Borussia M’bach (Germania) e Aston Villa (Inghilterra), for a total of 192 professional matches.

This season, Number 16 has made 29 appearances for 2.564 minutes and scored 3 goals while Number 6 has 33 matches (2.867 minuti played) and scored once with all their goals coming from inside the area.


De Rossi completes 67.29 passes per game and attempts long balls only 17% of the time; his completion percentage of 88% is eye-opening.

Bradley's completed 48.83 passes per game; 79% of his attempts but has attempted many more crosses than De Rossi (65-6). However, DDR's attacking incisiveness is a bit more evident if one's consider's his advantage of 3-1 in assists.



On the defensive end, the Chievo player is certainly busier, having contested opponents 101 times (winning 68%) while De Rossi has won 69% of 62 challenges.

Bradley has the advantage on interceptions (215-205) and arial balls (50%-45.5%).

De Rossi, evidently marked more closely, has been fouled 44 times to Bradley's 11 while committing 25 fouls to Bradley's 26.



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Posted by BleedPurpleGold on 5/2 at 10:30 pm to wm72
Beat me to it. Although without looking at the article I'm willing to bet that was better than I could have done.


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Posted by BobLoblaw on 5/2 at 10:42 pm to joey barton
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There was an article from a Roma themed site comparing Bradley to De Rossi posted on Bigsoccer, but it was in Italian.


Do you post on BigSoccer? I only ever look at the Yanks Abroad section. Does anyone else here post there? I see some Louisiana people posting now and then.


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Posted by joey barton on 5/2 at 10:49 pm to wm72
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Well, it's really just a breakdown of stats with no insight but here it is:




Some of those similarities are interesting, and it speaks volumes that people even think to compare the two statistically



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Posted by joey barton on 5/2 at 10:52 pm to BobLoblaw
I occasionally look at Yanks Abroad. Lots of good, difficult to find information in one place.

I don't even bother reading anything else related to the USMNT.



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Posted by wm72 on 5/2 at 10:59 pm to BleedPurpleGold
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Beat me to it. Although without looking at the article I'm willing to bet that was better than I could have done.


Coming from Roma fan site, it was only fitting that I do my small part to spread the word to all the EPL believers.



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Posted by BobLoblaw on 5/2 at 11:03 pm to joey barton
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I occasionally look at Yanks Abroad. Lots of good, difficult to find information in one place.


Yep. I've been able to follow the careers of USMNT players in Europe for years because of that forum. The gameday forum is great too, I can't tell you how many streams I've watched over the years of yanks abroad that I got from there.



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Posted by wm72 on 5/2 at 11:10 pm to joey barton
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it speaks volumes that people even think to compare the two statistically



It sure does. Not surprising either, I've been able to catch almost half of his Chievo games and he has been playing extremely well. Almost surprisingly well and I've always been a fan of his.



Publicity wise, It's also a bit to his advantage to be American since Italians generally really like Americans and an one doing well in Serie A has all the makings of a popular storyline.



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Posted by RedPop4 on 5/3 at 10:04 am to wm72
Forget the site, but saw in FB, this morning, that AS Roma MAY be considering Villas-Boaz to replace Luis Enrique.


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Posted by BobLoblaw on 5/3 at 9:37 pm to wm72
Some new information regarding Romerica from Seltzer


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Posted by wm72 on 5/3 at 11:08 pm to BobLoblaw
Thanks for posting that link. I wasn't familiar with his blog but it looks really interesting.

The best thing the new owners have done is actually get things rolling on the new stadium. That photo is of an older design idea from a few years back though.

Not sure I'm ready for Nike-era Roma. I guess the money will help but Kappa and, before them, Diadora seem to fit the club more.







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Posted by BobLoblaw on 5/3 at 11:47 pm to wm72
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Thanks for posting that link. I wasn't familiar with his blog but it looks really interesting.


If you care for American soccer and are a bit of a eurosnob its a must bookmark. I believe he's actually from St. Louis but Seltzer lives in Amsterdam and does a lot of primary reporting involving Americans in Europe.

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The best thing the new owners have done is actually get things rolling on the new stadium. That photo is of an older design idea from a few years back though.


It's hard to believe so many Italian clubs don't already have their own stadiums but I suppose at this point Juve building Juventus Stadium and now Roma with their plans might be the beginning of a new era of Serie A.

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Not sure I'm ready for Nike-era Roma. I guess the money will help but Kappa and, before them, Diadora seem to fit the club more.


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They can't begin the deal yet, but the club will switch gear from Kappa to Nike in either 2015 (a buy-out choice which would cost about $2 million) or 2017. They've also added a top-notch former adidas executive, so try to remember this time when you weren't awash in Roma merchandise every time you step into a sporting goods store or specialty soccer shop. It's-a-coming.


I loved that quote from the blog. I have always liked Roma's kits. One of my college buddies had family from that area of Italy and he followed them casually. I'll definitely keep an eye on what they do this summer. Hopefully they'll be a fun team to watch next season. If they end up signing an American I will watch them at every opportunity.

ETA: I just realized I never said thanks for translating the article, it was very interesting


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Posted by wm72 on 5/4 at 12:20 am to BobLoblaw
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It's hard to believe so many Italian clubs don't already have their own stadium


Building anything in Italy is one of the more painstaking, red-tape laden processes imaginable. It's no coincidence that every famous Italian architect's signature works are in the US, Spain or northern Europe.


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. . . try to remember this time when you weren't awash in Roma merchandise every time you step into a sporting goods store or specialty soccer shop. It's-a-coming.



I've complained about AS Roma's ownership missing opportunities to move the club to the next level for 15 years and now I'm already feeling nostalgia for the shoestring budget, hometown club feel.




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Posted by j1897 on 5/4 at 9:26 am to wm72
Bradley > DDR IMO


I've never been impressed with DeRossi, i'm hoping he's in rome this summer.



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Posted by ohiovol on 5/4 at 12:22 pm to BobLoblaw
It's about time he finds his way to a bigger club. I've been saying for a while that Bradley has been universally underrated.

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