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Any Options traders here?
Posted by The Mick on 5/2 at 2:01 pm
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Posted by greenhead11 on 5/2 at 2:08 pm to The Mick
Trade options every now and then...


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Posted by foshizzle on 5/2 at 2:38 pm to The Mick
I prefer to keep my money.


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Posted by GregYoureMyBoyBlue on 5/2 at 2:46 pm to foshizzle
Currency options on Dinars


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Posted by raw dog on 5/2 at 2:57 pm to GregYoureMyBoyBlue
I go to the casino every now and then.


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Posted by The Mick on 5/2 at 3:47 pm to foshizzle
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I prefer to keep my money.
Well me too but its kind of fun. I wouldnt bet your rent on it sir.



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Posted by kfizzle85 on 5/2 at 3:51 pm to The Mick
Just delta hedge bro.


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Posted by TheHiddenFlask on 5/2 at 4:00 pm to kfizzle85
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Just delta hedge bro.


Fool proof plan.

Signed,

The 80's




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Posted by greenhead11 on 5/2 at 4:05 pm to foshizzle
Covered calls in a flat market. The get rich slowly and secretly approach! No outlay of money!...

Long calls on something you know has a good catalyst will beat casino returns. But no free drinks



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Posted by TheHiddenFlask on 5/2 at 4:22 pm to greenhead11
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Long calls on something you know has a good catalyst will beat casino returns. But no free drinks


I'm much more of a put fan myself.

If I like a stock, I'll just buy it. Shorting aint as easy.



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Posted by Tha Herg on 5/2 at 7:46 pm to The Mick
Anyone straddle any stocks? Learned about it recently and wanted to see if anyone actually practices this.


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Posted by greenhead11 on 5/2 at 9:00 pm to TheHiddenFlask
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Shorting aint as easy.


Thats the truth. As I said in another thread I wish I shorted GMCR. But after shorting another high flyer (NFLX) and making and loosing a lot of money, I've learned 2 lessons:

1. Never short on valuation, alone!
2. I'm staying out of these high flyer popular stocks. I'm quite content investing in stocks no one has ever heard (especially in some of the markets I invest in) and getting out when/if big brokerages come in on "growth/speculative" stocks

Puts offer some nice protection every now and then, but i've only used them once.


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Posted by kfizzle85 on 5/2 at 10:27 pm to greenhead11
1. In the age of the internets, any stock no one has ever heard of has a message board full of rabid asshats who almost certainly have no idea what they're talking about and generally posting about anything and everything possibly related to it and fricking with its liquidity (since its probably small cap) cause they think they're all uber day-traders. Or is international and they're just doing it behind the great Chinese firewall and doing it on the Shanghai gambling exchange. Or its a Chinese RTO and they're doing it on both exchanges, and well, we all know how that story ends by now I think.
2. Just follow Einhorn brah.
3. I definitely agree with your no. 1.



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Posted by Jp1LSU on 5/2 at 10:44 pm to kfizzle85
I buy calls from time to time. Did a bunch with apple.
Don't know of a better way to control 100 shares of apple with just a few bucks. Apple options have been kind to me.



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Posted by greenhead11 on 5/2 at 11:40 pm to kfizzle85
]What I have learned from my current job covering exclusively EM, is that there really fantastic opportunities abroad that simply are not available in the US. Run some screeners on Cap IQ (Kfizzle i think u mentioned you have it) for under 5 billion market cap, 5 yr CAGR > 15, ROE > 20, forward PE less than 15, and outside the US and be amazed. There are plenty of unique stocks that have floats greater than 80% and good volume with minimal research coverage and hot money. Granted you do take some liquidity risks on occasion, but it's truly amazing what is out there when you take a global perspective. Oh and btw Etrade trades 36 different exchanges. Problem is 2 people in the whole freakin company know it.

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Shanghai gambling exchange


To a certain extent this is true. But Hong Kong and Singapore have some of the strictest financial regulations in the world. That obviously doesn't mean there is perfect transparency or zero corruption. But go commit insider trading in China... They freakin execute you for financial crimes (drug dealing to). I don't trade either mainland china exchanges often.

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In the age of the internets, any stock no one has ever heard of has a message board full of rabid asshats who almost certainly have no idea what they're talking about and generally posting about anything and everything possibly related to it and fricking with its liquidity (since its probably small cap) cause they think they're all uber day-traders


Couldn't agree more with this part of the statement.


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Posted by kfizzle85 on 5/3 at 9:11 am to greenhead11
Its not so much a lack of financial regulation (although again, I'd point to the myriad problems with dual listed RTOs to say that that is indeed a problem) that I was commenting on inasmuch as I was commenting on the mentality of the Chinese population to day trade. I've read countless articles that say that Shanghai and HK volume is heavily affected by retail due to a lack of large domestic institutional investors and that the retail mindset there is very much akin to gambling (as I'm sure you know, they love to gamble).


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Posted by Trauma14 on 5/3 at 11:06 am to The Mick
I trade options pretty consistently. So far for 2012 I'm getting a %4 annualized return.


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Posted by TheHiddenFlask on 5/3 at 11:24 am to Trauma14
I trade options pretty consistently. So far for 2012 I'm getting a %4 annualized return.

If you had bought GMCR 30 dollar May puts yesterday, you would be making 79,000% daily.



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Posted by Trauma14 on 5/3 at 11:34 am to TheHiddenFlask
My wife the other day was drinking her Green Mountain breakfast blend and said, "Honey, you should look into buying green mountain stock, they make such good coffee and they make the most keurig coffee flavors."


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Posted by Athanatos on 5/3 at 12:14 pm to TheHiddenFlask
If i had a dollar for every negative word the Seer of CEBA uttered concerning NFLX and GMCR, I could pay my credit card bills for a year.


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