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59 of 60 weeks and counting on jobless numbers...
Posted by udtiger on 4/26 at 8:05 am
388K from upwardly revised 389K (from 386K).

Reported as...class....a DECLINE in first time jobless claims.

LINK

Shameless.


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Posted by wickowick on 4/26 at 8:09 am to udtiger
I would love to see a graph with the initial job numbers and the revised numbers. I looked around last week and couldn't find anything...


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Posted by CITWTT on 4/26 at 8:10 am to udtiger
But it was an unexpected occurrence, so it won't be publicized by the media.

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Posted by baybeefeetz on 4/26 at 8:10 am to udtiger
What is your issue here? You go like 4 paragraphs into the article and it's talking about the rising moving average. Headline is neutral at best, but negative to me.

I get that the numbers are revised upward every time. Okay. It doesn't seem to me that the reporting here is manipulative.

Is this article better?

Granted, it's a few weeks old


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Posted by The Easter Bunny on 4/26 at 8:29 am to baybeefeetz
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I get that the numbers are revised upward every time. Okay. It doesn't seem to me that the reporting here is manipulative.




Seems like a statistical anomaly to always revise the numbers up. Perhaps there is an issue with the way they collect the data that is not scientifically sound?



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Posted by GumboPot on 4/26 at 8:44 am to wickowick
quote:

I would love to see a graph with the initial job numbers and the revised numbers. I looked around last week and couldn't find anything...





Just As Predicted, Initial Claims Miss Huge, Yet Magically Improve

quote:

So, once again, where is the recovery? In the manipulated data? Or the quality of the hopium spewed forth by the pro-administration media? Our only question is whether the recently unemployed Colombian hookers made US initial claims last week.



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Posted by LSUgusto on 4/26 at 8:51 am to udtiger
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Shameless
Indeed.



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Posted by baybeefeetz on 4/26 at 8:54 am to The Easter Bunny
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Perhaps there is an issue with the way they collect the data that is not scientifically sound?


Maybe they should just wait and announce it the following week, after the dust clears. I think this has been said here on many occasions. I don't thin the gov't is monitoring this site, though.



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Posted by Bard on 4/26 at 8:57 am to GumboPot
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hopium


Awesome



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Posted by dewster on 4/26 at 9:01 am to udtiger
So, they revise the previous week upward and report a decline this week when in reality, they are steady or rising. Rinse and repeat.

Amazing.



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Posted by wickowick on 4/26 at 9:07 am to GumboPot
That is a good one, I was thinking more along the lines of a bar graph by week in 3d with the initial numbers and anther bar graph behind it with the revised numbers. That way we could see, not only the revisions but the trend of if the numbers are increasing or decreasing and by how much...


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Posted by GumboPot on 4/26 at 9:10 am to dewster
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So, they revise the previous week upward and report a decline this week when in reality, they are steady or rising. Rinse and repeat.


Yep. But you would think in an honest statistical analysis over time there would be an equal number of downward and upward revision from the previous week. We are not seeing this. We are seeing only (58 out of 59) upward revisions of the previous week so the media can tout this week as "improvement". It is propaganda at it's finest.



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Posted by GumboPot on 4/26 at 9:14 am to wickowick
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That is a good one, I was thinking more along the lines of a bar graph by week in 3d with the initial numbers and anther bar graph behind it with the revised numbers. That way we could see, not only the revisions but the trend of if the numbers are increasing or decreasing and by how much...


I could do this in a jiffy, but I need the source data. I don't know where I can find it easily. I've tried the BLS website, but I couldn't find the un-revised numbers. Maybe I did not dig deep enough.



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Posted by MFn GIMP on 4/26 at 9:15 am to udtiger
Just nitpicking here but it's actually 59 of the last 60 weeks. And a total net increase of ~30,000 over the last 5 weeks.


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Posted by Bestbank Tiger on 4/26 at 9:18 am to baybeefeetz
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I don't thin the gov't is monitoring this site, though.


I bet #AttackWatch is




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Posted by CptBengal on 4/26 at 9:20 am to GumboPot
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But you would think in an honest statistical analysis over time there would be an equal number of downward and upward revision from the previous week.


if your model has residuals that are all positive....(y-yhat)....wtf kind of model is that?

Might as well just make up numbers instead.



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Posted by udtiger on 4/26 at 9:23 am to MFn GIMP
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Just nitpicking here but it's actually 59 of the last 60 weeks


Sorry...I lost count.

I will revise.



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Posted by MFn GIMP on 4/26 at 9:48 am to udtiger
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Sorry...I lost count.

I will revise.



No problem, I thought it was 58 of 59 as well until I read about it somewhere else.



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Posted by Delicious Tacos on 4/26 at 9:52 am to MFn GIMP
Our economy would be BOOMING right now if McCain was president! Can say 0% unemployment?


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Posted by Bestbank Tiger on 4/26 at 9:53 am to GumboPot
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I could do this in a jiffy, but I need the source data. I don't know where I can find it easily. I've tried the BLS website, but I couldn't find the un-revised numbers. Maybe I did not dig deep enough.


No. The original numbers went into the memory hole.



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