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Using a 4 g phone for hotspot with xboxlive?
Posted by polarbehr on 4/23 at 4:45 pm
Any one try and use xbox live and game with one for internet?

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Posted by UltimateHog on 4/23 at 4:54 pm to polarbehr
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Any one try and use xbox live and game with one for internet?



I assume you mean tethering the 4G into a WiFi Hotspot and using it that way?

You better have a tethering plan by your provider.

It should work just fine, run a speedtest and make sure your 4G is running at 4G speeds and you're good to go.



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Posted by Croacka on 4/23 at 4:59 pm to polarbehr
You will lag some


My Lte ping is usually around 130ms

Cable is usually 30ms, so it will be noticeable but not impossible.



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Posted by polarbehr on 4/23 at 5:09 pm to Croacka
My ping has been around 40-65


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Posted by baytiger on 4/23 at 5:21 pm to UltimateHog
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You better have a tethering plan by your provider.


why? it's not illegal to use your own equipment's features as the device manufacturer intended.



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Posted by UltimateHog on 4/23 at 5:36 pm to baytiger
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why? it's not illegal to use your own equipment's features as the device manufacturer intended.



Well from my experience (AT&T iPhone's) I used an app called MyWi to turn 3G into a WiFi Hotspot, after use of about 2 weeks tops, AT&T emailed me that I am using my phone to tether without a tethering plan on my monthly plan and said to either stop, or they will automatically add the service to my plan.

So that's why I said you better have one, might not be illegal, but AT&T won't allow it. I believe Verizon/Sprint also sell the Tethering option seperate as well, so I'd expect the same from there.

Tethering requires a tethering plan.



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Posted by polarbehr on 4/23 at 6:28 pm to UltimateHog
I don't pay for tether, look at my avatar.


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Posted by UltimateHog on 4/23 at 7:20 pm to polarbehr
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I don't pay for tether, look at my avatar.


I have no clue what your avatar is, as I said above I'm all iPhone. If it means you're rooted on Android then cool for you.

You will pay for tethering if you tether, they will add it to your plan but will warn you first. Well, AT&T will warn you first, idk about other companies and I've even read that AT&T won't warn you anymore.



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Posted by BaddestAndvari on 4/23 at 10:55 pm to UltimateHog
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I have no clue what your avatar is, as I said above I'm all iPhone. If it means you're rooted on Android then cool for you.

You will pay for tethering if you tether, they will add it to your plan but will warn you first. Well, AT&T will warn you first, idk about other companies and I've even read that AT&T won't warn you anymore.


His avatar is of the super user icon for android, which means he's an awesome phone hacker! As for tethering, one more reason to go android... I used 10.4GB of data last month.. guess who can't tell I'm tethering my phone? If you guessed my phone service provider, you win a lifetime of a lock down phone that can't do half the stuff android can! Congratulations!



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Posted by UltimateHog on 4/24 at 1:15 am to BaddestAndvari
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If you guessed my phone service provider, you win a lifetime of a lock down phone that can't do half the stuff android can! Congratulations!


I'm jailbroke, hate to break it to you but the Dev Team for iOS blows anything Droid has to offer out of the water by the size of the Atlantic Ocean.

Bwahahhaha. Nice try though!

Do your research next time, the hacking community on the iPhone/iPad about triples that of the Droid community, but then again everyone owns an iPhone or iPad in this country



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Posted by baytiger on 4/24 at 1:35 am to UltimateHog
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Tethering requires a tethering plan.
Except it doesn't. If your wireless company pulls that shit, there are plenty other companies who you can take your business to.

I've been tethering on my rooted Verizon Fascinate for years.



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Posted by UltimateHog on 4/24 at 1:37 am to baytiger
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Except it doesn't. If your wireless company pulls that shit, there are plenty other companies who you can take your business to. I've been tethering on my rooted Verizon Fascinate for years.


I guess you're just lucky then, but couldn't be more wrong.

Verizon absolutely requires a tethering plan and will charge you extra. As will any carrier.

quote:

Verizon has begun blocking customers who use workarounds to tether their mobile devices without a Verizon-approved tethering plan, Boy Genius Report reported Monday. The move comes days after AT&T announced it will start forcing tetherers onto approved tethering plans, and just as the debate ramps up on whether curtailing tethering apps violates certain rules Verizon agreed to when it licensed a chunk of 700MHz spectrum for 4G use. BGR noted that one of its writers, who uses a rooted Motorola Droid X and an unauthorized app to tether other devices, recently found that trying to navigate the Web on tethered devices redirected her to a Verizon Wireless page detailing rates for the company's authorized hotspot plans.


LINK LINK 2


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Posted by baytiger on 4/24 at 1:50 am to UltimateHog
I know they "require" a tethering plan. But they can't possibly enforce it, and they're SOL legally. if they try to force me to pay for tethering, i'll cancel it. If they cancel me because of it, i'll switch carriers. there's no fricking way i'm paying an extra 30\40 bucks a month for something my phone hardware is intended to do for free.

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Posted by UltimateHog on 4/24 at 1:55 am to baytiger
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I know they "require" a tethering plan. But they can't possibly enforce it


They are certainly trying.

If/when they do find out about you tethering with an unauthorized App, they will force you to add a tethering plan or I'd imagine cancel/or ban your service.

Like the article says though, usually Devs can stay a step ahead of the carriers and find workarounds from them detecting it, but as 4G and tethering get bigger and bigger over the year I wouldn't expect that to continue.

quote:

there's no fricking way i'm paying an extra 30\40 bucks a month for something my phone hardware is intended to do for free.


I don't follow you here. Your phone is intended to be a WiFi Hotspot for free? No, it's not. Just like your phone is intended to make calls/send texts but it doesn't without the service you have to pay for.

Enjoy it while you can, I expect them to crack down a lot harder as 4G expands more and more, and you see more and more unauthorized tethering.



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Posted by baytiger on 4/24 at 2:07 am to UltimateHog
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Your phone is intended to be a WiFi Hotspot for free? No, it's not.
Yes, it is. Otherwise it wouldn't have wifi broadcast capabilities in the first place. The carrier doesn't make the handsets. Android is an open source platform so users are fully capable of modifying it to make full use of the device, and the carriers can't touch them legally. Sure, it's completely within their right to try to stop it with other measures, but that doesn't prevent the user from subverting them.



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Posted by UltimateHog on 4/24 at 2:21 am to baytiger
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The carrier doesn't make the handsets. Android is an open source platform so users are fully capable of modifying it to make full use of the device, and the carriers can't touch them legally.


Them as in Android directly? No.

You as a person? Yes.

It's in the Term's of Service in your Contract, unauthorized tethering is illegal if you have a contract with your provider.

I'm an iPhone jailbreaker myself and use a Cydia program called MyWi to tether when I have to, which is really never, so I've never received shite from AT&T since I've only used it about 2-3 times when the power went out.


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Posted by baytiger on 4/24 at 2:27 am to UltimateHog
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It's in the Term's of Service in your Contract, unauthorized tethering is illegal if you have a contract with your provider.
violates the contract? Maybe. Illegal? Nope.

And I don't really tether on a regular basis either. I use it about like you do. I hardly ever exceed 1GB/mo, in fact.



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Posted by UltimateHog on 4/24 at 2:29 am to baytiger
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violates the contract? Maybe. Illegal? Nope.


Well that's what I meant, not illegal in law, but illegal in your contract you signed and will get your contract terminated.

I'd imagine they would warn you first, or do what AT&T does and automatically add a tethering plan to your account after they send you a text to stop.



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Posted by Smash Mouth Tider on 4/24 at 6:39 am to UltimateHog
My Nokia Lumia 900 laughs at both of those weak phones.


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Posted by BaddestAndvari on 4/24 at 7:23 am to Smash Mouth Tider
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Nokia Lumia 900


Extremely good phone.



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