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| Fujita first to speak truth or B.S.? You call it. Posted by 10888bge Fujita and bounty  on 4/16 at 4:03 pmI don't know if Goodell will believe him. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: I think this was more the case than anything. And thats what, im pretty sure, the NFLPA's argument to Goodell is. Yes maybe you proved there was a big hit incentive program, but can you prove there was payment made for someone intentionally hurting another player? Reply • Back to Top |
| im not sure why Goodell would believe, especially with the GW tape coming out. It comes full circle since Fujita was the middle man that advised Gleason to release it. though Gleason still had not given Pamphilon permission personally. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: That tape shows a DC telling his players to hurt others. Some metaphorical some not so much. It sure proves GW was a dickhead and prob crossed some lines in some pregame meetings, that said the players didnt do any of the stuff he asked of them. He never says if you go hurt someone i will pay you. He doesnt ever say that. You can make that assumption, but you know what they say about assumptions. Reply • Back to Top |
| yeah the NFL is really trying to dick over the NFLPA and the actual process. more reports came out today restating that the NFL has yet to show clear evidence (or really any) that players were actually paid to injure players. if nothing comes out, the suspensions will probably be pretty light. such bull shite that the players get the NFLPA to back them up but coaches get fricked by one man. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: Yeah. If the coaches wanted to form a union, i guess they could. But i dont see that happening. It sucks. The other coaches couldn't back him cause theyd just get suspended too, or atleast risk uncovering some of their own skeletons. Reply • Back to Top |
Posted by JDat on 4/16 at 4:26 pm to Lester Earl quote: First i hear of this Reply • Back to Top |
| LE, what the hell are you talking about? Reply • Back to Top |
quote: i think the coaches do have a union. I remember it being mentioned in the month or so leading up to the lockout. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: really? didnt know that. How many of them are actually in it? Reply • Back to Top |
| Yup, I just looked it up, NFLCA must be a dues-paying member of said org. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: the tape all but confirms the reports that came out that Williams and guys like Vilma offered bounties for injuring players. Now i firmly believe they were paid if a player was injured within the frame work of the game rather than intentionally taking out a player, but i doubt the NFL cares. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: I agree. It doesnt confirm them. quote: Like i said about the assumptions. Do you have proof he actually did that? You and Goodell can believe all you want, but proof is what you need to condemn. I'm not saying he did or didn't do it. Just want proof that he actually did it. Reply • Back to Top |
| connect the dots dude. It's not that hard. If Goodell didn't have hard proof, his coaching career wouldnt be in jeopardy. Reply • Back to Top |
| It's not a union, it's a trade association. It doesn't have near the power of a union. Next to no power at all actually. Reply • Back to Top |
quote: I'm not saying you dont have a bunch of circumstantial evidence seems to point towards a conclusion. The problem is there is no hard concrete proof of said conclusion. I could see someone easily making a case against all the evidence. Without a video or testimony of Williams saying "Good job hurting that guy on purpose like i told you too, here is X amount of money", I'm not going to be happy. quote: Explain to the NFLPA. I get that there is proof that he had a pay for performance system and there is proof that he said to hurt people, but there is no hard evidence proving that he paid players to hurt other players. This post was edited on 4/16 at 4:57 pm Reply • Back to Top |
| This post was edited on 4/16 at 5:11 pm Reply • Back to Top |
quote:I made a thread on this topic this morning based on a false headline on ESPN. Have you seen it somewhere else? Reply • Back to Top |
| I just read that article. Didn't know it was public though. 3-4 weeks before the tape was released, Pamphilon went to Gleason and felt like he should release the tape. Gleason didn't want to, and they decided to confide with a middle man. The middle man was Fujita. Brees was also involved but his PR people told him to breakaway from it and not get involved. Fujita told them they should release the tape so that all the pressure would be off the current Saint players and coaches, and to put all the attention to Williams. This article is the first im reading that the players association got access of the tape. But it makes sense since Fujita was that middle man they talked to about releasing the tape. I dont have any info on that. Whether he was given permission to do that or not. This post was edited on 4/16 at 6:10 pm Reply • Back to Top |
| The NFLPA is still saying that the NFL has presented no evidence that there was, specifically, a pay-to-injure program. Reply • Back to Top • Refresh |
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