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It's time for LSU students and bar owners to surrender Tigerland
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR on 4/15 at 4:01 am
Tigerland, even in my era of the 1980s was an aesthetically ugly bar area. And all these years later it's as blighty as ever. Slumlorded, not only now by apartment owners, but through the decades the bar owners largely just milked paydays too, rarely ever giving back or pouring much profit into bettering their bars.

Now, it has become unsafe, much like when 1970s and 1980s LSU students had to surrender Highland Rd bars between the Downtown Overpass to the gates of LSU, by the early 1990s. It simply became unsafe, and/or undesirable for bar owners to develop or maintain, what were in some cases, nice bars/clubs, they succumbed to the decay and crime that surrounded them..the parking areas and crime alienated patrons.

UGA/Athens, and some other SEC schools have some totally classy strips for their main bar concentrations.

And with LSU no longer having the former bar concentration and dance clubs between WBRZ and the North Gates, the demolition of Murphy's, Paradise Records, numerous daquiri joints, McDs,etc..the need for the failing Tigerland to shine, was needed even more so. It has failed miserably in improving itself and/or reinventing via new investment.

If Gaslite, and other Tigerland apartments mentioned on here, have truly went Section-8, and/or now largely inhabited by non-LSU student tenants, then the mission of Tigerland is now lost and done..and not coming back. In my day, the only true slum in there, despite many disgusting cheapo student apt complexes, was that three-story to the left of Dominos, out behind SI/Reggies. Crime was almost non-existent sans occasional busted car window and stereo stolen.

Either scrap it, or the better idea, is to reclaim it, and redevelop it back to full health. But, I've yet to see a true gentrification project in BR. I see some noble efforts, which imho buy time, and/or 'fight the good fight' in slightly reversing some quick slides. But, have yet to see an 100% turnaround job.

Time for some greedy slumlords and developers to get together for the common good of what amounts to LSU's doorstep. Because, right now it looks like LSU's being hemmed in with decay(and the crime that comes with it) at yet another bookend, an area that was formerly an ally..albeit ugly as hell!


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Posted by CottonWasKing on 4/15 at 4:09 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
If the brpd don't fight to reclaim that area then the students need to find a new scene. The only way to create that scene is to start frequenting and spending money in an area they feel is safe. So yes I agree its time to let tigerland go


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Posted by fr33manator on 4/15 at 4:16 am to CottonWasKing
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If the brpd don't fight to reclaim that area then the students need to find a new scene. The only way to create that scene is to start frequenting and spending money in an area they feel is safe. So yes I agree its time to let tigerland go

Until the cancer of section-8ers spread farther. And once again they are at the gates of whatever is the new area.
You don't stop cancer by ignoring it and surrendering the part it has spread to.
You excise it. You cut it out wholly, or else it will return and kill the host.



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Posted by CottonWasKing on 4/15 at 4:34 am to fr33manator
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fr33manator


I agree but how are the civilian college students going to do that?

A lot of whom aren't even registered to vote in br...

The only power they have to show their disapproval is to take their business somewhere else. Somewhere they feel safe. It is the cities job to reclaim tigerland they are the only ones with the power to do such.



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Posted by Crow Pie on 4/15 at 4:38 am to fr33manator
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You cut it out wholly, or else it will return and kill the host.


Maybe it's time the good guys fully exercise their 2 amendment rights to provide living zones free of fear from the bad guys. In conjunction with this alternative...please reduce the tax rate paid by those that contribute since the money used for public safety is obviously not effective.



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Posted by fishfighter on 4/15 at 4:43 am to CottonWasKing
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It is the cities job to reclaim tigerland they are the only ones with the power to do such.


Why the city to do this? There are way more pressing things that need to be done before the "city" needs to start taking over peoples land just to "fix" an area for drunking kids.


Yes, the area is a shite hole. So is the hood around that area. The only way for it to completely colapse is for students to not spend any money in the area.



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Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR on 4/15 at 4:44 am to CottonWasKing
You're waiting on a city whom's own DOTD doesn't even have the manpower nor funds to cut and maintain it's medians and city sidewalks from growing 4 to 6 ft weeds..good luck!

What it will take is pressure on the slumlords that cash that easy check at the first of every month from Uncle Sam, by their local peers and city authorities. And if owned by outta state owners, then some local push to buy said properties, and target the area for new development by someone with deep enough pockets and an sincere interest in LSU/BR.

Greedy developers building cheap apartments for LSU students, is how Gardere/Burbank happened in the first place. It wasn't created with malice, just greed & half@ss efforts..and sh!t zoning restrictions/ordinances.



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Posted by CottonWasKing on 4/15 at 4:44 am to Crow Pie
You're going to face charges almost Everytime you fire on someone outside of your own home. You may get of on self defense but you will face charges.

It shouldn't come down to the everyday civilian to be forced to loom over his shoulder with a hand on the trigger everytime he steps out of his house. One of the reasons he pays taxes is for the piece of mind that his hard earned money is going toward keeping his arse out of a coffin



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Posted by fr33manator on 4/15 at 4:47 am to CottonWasKing
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I agree but how are the civilian college students going to do that?
A lot of whom aren't even registered to vote in br...
The only power they have to show their disapproval is to take their business somewhere else. Somewhere they feel safe. It is the cities job to reclaim tigerland they are the only ones with the power to do such.

Not so. If they want the area around LSU to remain somewhere that decent folk can enjoy, they have to take it to the streets.
A line must be drawn in the sand. Make it clear that the 8ers are not wanted, nor will they be tolerated anymore.
When you cower before animals, they sense your fear and weakness and attack it, for you are easy prey. Respond with force of voice and number, and at no time back down from the interlopers, for it only encourages further incursion and more brazen attacks.

Until decent folk stand up to the element that plagues this town and respond with a roar, not a whimper, will the rest take notice.




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Posted by dgnx6 on 4/15 at 4:53 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
A lot of students do still live around tigerland. Brightside/sharlo is full of students. I assume tiger plaza is as well. Even some of the other run down looking places have students living in them. Then East boyd, jennifer jean, and burbank all has students. That is all relatively close to each other, and in walking distance to the bars.

The Bars also have dress codes, covers, and ask for college backups to keep unwanted people out of them.


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Posted by Ed Osteen on 4/15 at 4:54 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
1. Lsu has zero association with tiger land
2. Gas lite isn't section 8 bc I know people who live there
3. Someonr gets allegedly shot In an area around
tiger land and the entire area is shit?
4. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about and sound like another one of those idiots that cllaim BR is turning into a shithole bc of a shooting.


You do realize that there are countless areas of BR were gunshots ring out all night long right?



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Posted by CottonWasKing on 4/15 at 4:54 am to fr33manator
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will the rest take notice


They damn sure will and we would have the beginnings of a race war occurring on the states most prestigious school's door steps. Do you honestly think that's a good idea? Do you really want al sharpton marching straight through the middle of campus down highland preaching about the intolerance of this schools white people?

The city needs to bow its back strain a little bit flex some muscle and make this campus safe again or baton rouge and LSU will eventually be ruined...

For historic reference look what happened to Polo grounds



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Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR on 4/15 at 4:59 am to dgnx6
Of course, that's expected. The problem is that, either through newer nicer apartments being built, and/or aging complexes vacancy and slumlording practices of no reinvestment to stay attractive, etc..

The area's slide has gained speed.


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Posted by Ed Osteen on 4/15 at 5:04 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
You people do realize the bars closed 3 hours ago right? This wasn't some shooting in a parking lot aimed at random bar patrons as they exited. Chances are that if someone is trying to shoot you, you are either involved in something you shouldn't be or got invoked with the wrong scene


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Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR on 4/15 at 5:05 am to Ed Osteen
jennin, I stated I havent been around Tigerland in 20+ yrs. But, have lived in BR twice as long as you've been on this Earth. I well know BR, LSU, and it's history, better than you.

Thus, if you had an idea of what Tigerland was like when sh!tting your diapers back in 1987, yes, you'd well know by contrast it's went to sh!t comparatively, regardless of same ugly aesthetic.

LSU isn't Tigerland, but the majority of BR's biggest developers are LSU grads, with an eye for profitt and improving BR & LSU, when possible.



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Posted by fishfighter on 4/15 at 5:06 am to Ed Osteen
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You do realize that there are countless areas of BR were gunshots ring out all night long right?


The complete city is a shite hole. That better? Oh, that goes for all citys.



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Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR on 4/15 at 5:10 am to Ed Osteen
Yes, I realize how must crime happens, why, when, whom, etc..and how to hopefully avoid it.

Regardless, the crime pin has been landing on LSU's southern door steps far more of recent, than previously, and not just it's North Gates..which used to have near exclusivity sans bar fights.



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Posted by CottonWasKing on 4/15 at 5:14 am to Ed Osteen
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tsjennin



I don't think you're grasping the fact that it doesn't matter what's going actually going on. What matters is the public reception of what's going on. And that public reception is that there is an alarming number of violent crimes being committed inside of LSU's largest off campus student gathering site. That reflects VERY poorly on both the school and the city



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Posted by Ed Osteen on 4/15 at 5:18 am to TheRoarRestoredInBR
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jennin, I stated I havent been around Tigerland in 20+ yrs. But, have lived in BR twice as long as you've been on this Earth. I well know BR, LSU, and it's history, better than you.


And this is relevant because?

quote:

Thus, if you had an idea of what Tigerland was like when sh!tting your diapers back in 1987, yes, you'd well know by contrast it's went to sh!t comparatively, regardless of same ugly aesthetic.


I'm not sure whats with the hostility but I'm still failing to see how this contributes to your argument thattigerland should be "surrendered" whatever happened in your time has zero relavenxy to what is happening now

quote:

LSU isn't Tigerland, but the majority of BR's biggest developers are LSU grads, with an eye for profitt and improving BR & LSU, when possible.


Exactly LSU isn't tigerland, just like valley park isn't southdowns. If you think any developer in baton routes top concern is tigerland the. You are greatly mistaken


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