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Napa and San Francisco
Posted by Rev1897 on 3/14 at 2:10 pm
Heading out there with the wife in April. We are going to fly in and out of SFO and do Napa for a day or two. Would love recommendations on the following:

San Fran Hotels and Restaurants
Napa Hotels and Restaurants

Napa v. Sonoma?

We've only got about 4 days. Thanks for the help, everyone.



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Posted by Littleman on 3/14 at 2:14 pm to Rev1897
What price range hotels.....3* 4*......casual or fine dining. What about casual for lunch and fine dining for dinner. Rent a car at SFO and drive to Napa. You can get there in a couple of hours. Stay two nights drive back to SF and turn your rental car in downtown before you leave. Don't take it to the AP. Too much trouble. Avis has a good location downtown close to Ritz Carlton.

Where do you want to stay in Napa. My suggestion is St. Helena. I will provide more when you answer the above.



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Posted by Gaston on 3/14 at 2:20 pm to Rev1897
We like the Orchard Garden hotel. Thought it was in a great little spot. Walk to Chinatown, Coit...


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Posted by Rev1897 on 3/14 at 10:11 pm to Littleman
We'd like a nice hotel but more boutique than expensive. As for napa, we were thinking bed and breakfast. I don't plan on being at the hotel that much when we're in the city.

As for food, we just want good--who cares about expensive or cheap. Let's get some good food!

We will rent a car, probably downtown, and head to Napa for an evening (probably two days total)

We're doing Friday-Tuesday (so basically 4 nights)



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Posted by Littleman on 3/14 at 10:16 pm to Rev1897
Red Door Inn @ 1523 Main Street, Saint Helena, CA 707 - 963 - 5400.
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Wine Country Inn @ 1152 Lodi Lane, St Helena, California 707 - 963 - 7077.
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Harvest Inn @ 1 Main Street, St Helena, CA 707 - 963 - 9463.
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Inn at Southbridge @ 1020 Main Street, St Helena, California 707 - 967 - 9400.
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Posted by LSUEnvy on 3/14 at 10:18 pm to Rev1897
V satuii ( sp)? Winery was cool in napa. They also had a nice market to buy bread cheese meats and salads. After wine tasting pick out a bottle and sit in the cellar amongst the many wine barrels and have lunch. We also did the 17 mile pebble beach drive then continued to drive to Big Sur. truly breathtaking


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Posted by Littleman on 3/14 at 10:19 pm to Littleman
Cindy's Backstreet Kitchen @ 1327 Railroad Avenue, St Helena, CA 707 - 963 - 1200.
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Market Restaurant @ 1347 Main Street, St Helena, CA 707 - 963 - 3799.
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Martini House @ 1245 Spring Street, St Helena, California 707 - 963 - 2233.
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Press @ 587 St. Helena Highway South, St. Helena, CA 707 - 967 - 0550.
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Posted by Littleman on 3/14 at 10:20 pm to Littleman
Ad Hoc @ 6476 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 707 - 944-2487.
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Bistro Jeanty @ 6510 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 707 - 944 - 0103.
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Bottega @ 6525 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 707 - 945 - 1050.
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Bouchon Bistro @ 6534 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 707 - 944 - 8037.
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Napa Valley Lodge @ 2230 Madison Street, Yountville, CA 707 - 944 - 2468.
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Redd Restaurant @ 6480 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 707 - 944 - 2222.
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Vintage Inn @ 6541 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 800 - 351 - 1133.
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Yountville Inn @ 6462 Washington Street, Yountville, CA 707 - 944 - 5600.
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Posted by marie antoinette on 3/14 at 10:32 pm to Rev1897
I had some amaaaazing tapas and sangria from Cha Cha Cha in SF this past September.


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Posted by Rev1897 on 3/14 at 10:49 pm to marie antoinette
What about places to stay in San Fran? It'll be a Sunday and a Monday night, so I'm hoping I can get a decent rate.


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Posted by marie antoinette on 3/14 at 10:52 pm to Rev1897
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What about places to stay in San Fran?


we stayed with friends in Oakland and drove in so I can't contribute to this. sorry bud.

go to the art museum across the street from the california academy of the sciences, maybe De Young is the name? there are amazing views of the city from the top floor observatory area.


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Posted by Foot on 3/15 at 12:09 am to Littleman
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Martini House @ 1245 Spring Street, St Helena, California 707 - 963 - 2233.
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Is no longer open. The chef opened up a place called The Kitchen Door in the Oxbo Market in Napa. I haven't been yet though.



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Posted by Littleman on 3/15 at 10:39 am to Littleman
Boulevard Restaurant @ 1 Mission Street, San Francisco, CA 415 - 543 - 6084.
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Delfina @ 3621 18th Street, San Francisco, California 415 - 552 - 4055.
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Hotel Union Square @ 114 Powell Street, San Francisco, CA 415 - 397 - 3000.
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Perbacco @ 230 California Street, San Francisco, CA 415 - 955 - 0663.
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Quince Restaurant @ 470 Pacific Avenue, San Francisco, CA 415 - 775 - 8500.
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Restaurant Gary Danko @ 800 North Point Street, San Francisco, CA 415 - 749 - 2060.
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Posted by Littleman on 3/15 at 10:41 am to Rev1897
Slanted Door @ 1 Ferry Building #3, San Francisco, CA 415 - 861 - 8032.
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Soto Mare Seafood Restaurant @ 552 Green Street, San Francisco, CA 415 - 398 - 3181.
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SPQR @ 1911 Fillmore Street, San Francisco, CA 415 - 771 - 7779.
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Taddich Grill @ 240 California Street, San Francisco, CA 415 - 391 - 1849. LD.
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The Inn at Union Square @ 440 Post Street, San Francisco, CA 415 - 397 - 3510.
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Universal Cafe @ 2814 19th Street, San Francisco, CA 415 - 821 - 4608.
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Posted by townhallsavoy on 3/15 at 10:44 am to marie antoinette
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I had some amaaaazing tapas and sangria from Cha Cha Cha in SF this past September.


One of the best restaurants I've ever experienced!

The chicken paillard is something I'll never forget.

Just make sure you go during daylight. There's a nearby park that scared the shite out of me walking back to my car.



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Posted by Shingo on 3/15 at 11:04 am to LSUEnvy
We also did the 17 mile pebble beach drive then continued to drive to Big Sur. truly breathtaking

this is definitely true and definitely 3-4 hours away from Napa Valley



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Posted by GeauxldMember on 3/15 at 12:02 pm to Rev1897
I enjoyed both, but I much prefered the scene-- and more importantly, the wine-- in Sonoma.

If you decide on Sonoma, and you're a beer lover, you're a fool to not make a stop by Russian River and Flavor Bistro (Moonlight Brewing) in Santa Rosa. Wineries I'd particularly recommend are Copain, A. Rafanelli, Dave Coffaro, and Rochioli. Do yourself a favor and have dinner at Scopa. On certain nights of the week, they have folks from the local wineries on hand to feature their wine and discuss with the diners.

If you do go to Napa, I'd disagree with the poster who recommended V. Sattui, unless you like cookie cutter wine and want to contend with hundreds of tourists for an "I heart vino" keychain. Joseph Phelps is the one can't miss I'd recommend in Napa, but be sure to make a reservation. The view is spectacular.

For dining in Napa, don't miss The Fatted Calf, which is a charcuterie located behind the oxbow market, for lunch. C Casa, which is in the market has some really outstanding mexican, and you can sit out on the deck and enjoy the sunshine while you're eating. I seriously doubt you'll get reservations for French Laundry in April, but you can try. If you do, be prepared to pay for it, but it's an experience worth the price, IMO. There's also Ad Hoc, Morimoto, and Bottega, which would all be good dinner choices.



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Posted by Curdoglsu on 3/15 at 12:44 pm to Rev1897
I second the Wine Country Inn in St Helena. Stop by Frank Family Vineyard. Nice folks.


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Posted by LSUEnvy on 3/15 at 1:22 pm to GeauxldMember
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cookie cutter wine
sorry I don't know the difference
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contend with hundreds of tourists
went in the off season, maybe 20 people there
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"I heart vino" keychain.
didn't buy one but if they sold them I probably would have



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Posted by GeauxldMember on 3/15 at 1:50 pm to LSUEnvy
If you like their wine, that's all that matters. I find it's mediocre and overpriced because of that. It's also my opinion-- and I believe a quite valid one-- that there are much better wineries and settings in the area. I've said before V. Sattui is like the Disney World of wine. They're apparently making money, and good for them, but they won't be getting any of mine.

If you have a chance to go to Napa again, schedule a tasting at Joseph Phelps. Not the best wine in my opinion (though better than V. Sattui), but the view and atmosphere are incredible.



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