Graham Contract Outlook
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Graham Contract Outlook
Posted by blueslover on 10/18 at 11:47 am
Larry Holder examines some key issues HERE

His forecast-

A new deal won't be reached this season.

The Saints will be forced to use the franchise tag on Graham, at a rate of about $6 million for next season - the average for the league's five highest-paid tight ends. I'm not buying he'll be tagged as a wide receiver.

The two sides eventually will strike a deal during the summer closer to Gronkowski's contract as opposed to the Johnson and Fitzgerald deals.

Saints fans, you should already be battle tested after Brees' contract tussle. Prepare yourself accordingly for another long process with Graham.



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Posted by Brettesaurus Rex on 10/18 at 11:48 am to blueslover
I'm not really worried about it. They'll figure it out.

I'm more worried about graham completely disappearing last weekend.



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Posted by burdman on 10/18 at 11:52 am to blueslover
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I'm not really worried about it. They'll figure it out.



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Posted by Chad504boy on 10/18 at 11:53 am to blueslover
11-13 per year
25 mill plus guaranteed.



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Posted by liquid rabbit on 10/18 at 11:53 am to blueslover
What has he done for us lately?

No catches, no yards.

Screw him!


{/sarcasm disengaged}



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Posted by goatmilker on 10/18 at 11:58 am to liquid rabbit
"Grahams agent is unable to take your calls this week Mr. Loomis. He says to try him Monday after the buffalo game."







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Posted by tigersint on 10/18 at 12:08 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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I'm not really worried about it. They'll figure it out. I'm more worried about graham completely disappearing last weekend.


Im not too woried. Although it does concern me. That was simply Belickeck being Belicheck i think

I dont see any other team in the NFL being able to do what he did to Graham


This post was edited on 10/18 at 12:10 pm

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Posted by Hoodoo Man on 10/18 at 12:09 pm to blueslover
Extend him now.

He has no value.



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Posted by Hugo Stiglitz on 10/18 at 12:18 pm to blueslover
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I'm not buying he'll be tagged as a wide receiver.

People thinking this might happen are coo-coo for cocoa puffs.



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Posted by wildtigercat93 on 10/18 at 12:28 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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People thinking this might happen are coo-coo for cocoa puffs.


Idk if its going to happen, but i think hes going to fight tooth and nail to make it happen, and he has a much better case for it than some of the others that have tried to do the same



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Posted by bbrownso on 10/18 at 12:35 pm to wildtigercat93
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Idk if its going to happen, but i think hes going to fight tooth and nail to make it happen, and he has a much better case for it than some of the others that have tried to do the same


Like with what happened to Terrell Suggs in 2008, the Saints will tag Jimmy at the cheaper position of tight end. Then Graham will probably file a grievance and ask for a determination of his position. They'll eventually compromise at a hybrid tag value between the cost of the TE and WR franchise values (probably 8-8.5 million if the franchise costs are close to the 2013 numbers).



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Posted by STEVED00 on 10/18 at 1:00 pm to blueslover
Graham is a great player no doubt; however, is it beneficial to pay him top $ knowing that it will cause the saints to lose out on other players bc of the cap?

Saints were great offensively before Graham so how much of a difference does he really make. Would you rather have 3 really good players or 1 great player?



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Posted by Hoodoo Man on 10/18 at 1:02 pm to STEVED00
We play significantly better when we spread the ball around.

But yeah, we need Graham



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Posted by STEVED00 on 10/18 at 1:21 pm to Hoodoo Man

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Posted by Hoodoo Man We play significantly better when we spread the ball around. But yeah, we need Graham


Do we? What was our offense ranked pre-graham?

Graham is great dont get me wrong but what is a better formula for a SB run. 1 Graham or 3 very good other players?




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Posted by liquid rabbit on 10/18 at 1:22 pm to STEVED00
Yes, we do. Graham is a monster. He had a bad game.


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Posted by STEVED00 on 10/18 at 1:28 pm to liquid rabbit
Graham is a great player but he is going go get paid as a FA. That money has to come from some where.


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Posted by liquid rabbit on 10/18 at 1:32 pm to STEVED00
Saints should hold onto best-in-the-league players.

Brees--best QB
Graham--best TE
Sproles--best all-purpose

and for my money:

Morstead--best K/P



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Posted by F machine on 10/18 at 1:55 pm to STEVED00
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That money has to come from some where.


Will probably be from those big contracts from Harper, Vilma, Smith, etc. You keep talking about the offense before Jimmy, but we got extremely lucky with the draft before Jimmy. We had a fairly cheap offensive line that was pretty good. Nicks was hardly making anything. I see what you're saying, but you don't get rid of Jimmy. He makes the passing game so much better. IMO, he's not just a great player, he's a once in a generation talent at his position. You can't replace that. He makes Sproles, Thomas, and our receivers that much better in the passing game.



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Posted by STEVED00 on 10/18 at 2:11 pm to F machine
Once in a generation? Lets slow down a bit. Brees is a big reason for Grahams success. There are a few TEs in the league who i would take over Graham and who dont need to be taken out on running downs.


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Posted by goatmilker on 10/18 at 2:20 pm to STEVED00
For a single game perhaps gronk if he ever gets healthy. But if I am investing any money on the future It would be JG hands down.
JG has the attitude and worth ethic and no off field problems. #1 in my book.



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