The government and the common good
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The government and the common good
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 10/16 at 12:08 pm
When a supporter of a government program says he supports it because it will bring about the "common good", what does that mean?


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Posted by Godfather1 on 10/16 at 12:09 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It means he's going along in order to get along.

ETA: I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about lawmakers. My bad.


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Posted by jamboybarry on 10/16 at 12:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Means they get something they want from the state, everyone else (who probably has to support it financially) can get fricked


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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 10/16 at 12:12 pm to jamboybarry
How is it good for me when someone else is happy because he has my money?


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Posted by TrueTiger on 10/16 at 12:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I don't see "government" and "common good" being compatible ideas.

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Posted by oklahogjr on 10/16 at 12:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When a supporter of a government program says he supports it because it will bring about the "common good", what does that mean?


It means that while it will cost some individuals more than others overall it's better for the country. For instance roads.



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Posted by jamboybarry on 10/16 at 12:17 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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How is it good for me when someone else is happy because he has my money?


It's not.

Just look at the crap Rex spouts on here. Literally giddy about whole segments of the population being subsidized for their poor decisions

Common=them
Good=good for them



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Posted by 91TIGER on 10/16 at 12:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When a supporter of a government program says he supports it because it will bring about the "common good", what does that mean?


When they come for private savings accounts in a futile effort to stave off the inevitable crash, it'll be for "the common good". That will be the end of the 'middle class'.



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Posted by Patrick O Rly on 10/16 at 12:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It means you belong to them.


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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 10/16 at 12:28 pm to Patrick O Rly
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It means you belong to them
I have come to the sad realization that this is the case.



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Posted by Patrick O Rly on 10/16 at 12:35 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What else could it mean? The rhetoric is collectivist, but the reality is very much rulers and subjects.




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Posted by Tigah in the ATL on 10/16 at 12:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It means he or she supports the general welfare clause & is therefore a Constitutionalist.


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Posted by Patrick O Rly on 10/16 at 12:39 pm to Tigah in the ATL
That's gonna upset some people, but that is spot on, and it's also one of the reason I reject that piece of paper signed by dead men as a valid contract.


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Posted by Bard on 10/16 at 12:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When a supporter of a government program says he supports it because it will bring about the "common good", what does that mean?


It depends on the program. The interstate system is a government program just like Food Stamps are a government program, but the two are entirely different in who the effect and how they effect society.



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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! on 10/16 at 12:46 pm to Tigah in the ATL
Why didn't the founding fathers put their money where their mouths were and establish an extensive 18th century welfare state?

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Posted by Tiguar on 10/16 at 12:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
medicaid, food stamps, etc didn't exist and the founding fathers had no idea they ever would.

obviously those clauses dont apply to our most advanced welfare programs.

#2ndamendmentproblems


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Posted by Taxing Authority on 10/16 at 12:51 pm to Bard
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It depends on the program. The interstate system is a government program just like Food Stamps are a government program, but the two are entirely different in who the effect and how they effect society.
Exactly. The interstate system is a common good. Anyone and everyone has the opportunity to benefit from it. Food stamps (for one) are personal benefits. There is nothing "common" about them.



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Posted by navy on 10/16 at 12:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When a supporter of a government program says he supports it because it will bring about the "common good", what does that mean?




It means that if you are not a worthless dreg democrat voter ... you'd better decide now if you want to hide your wallet or empty it out.



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Posted by Turbeauxdog on 10/16 at 1:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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When a supporter of a government program says he supports it because it will bring about the "common good", what does that mean?


It might mean you are talking about public education.



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Posted by Blue Velvet on 10/16 at 1:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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common good
Myth



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