Man of Steel - upon further review...
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Posted by Tactical1 on 8/22 at 7:58 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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I would say that's pretty strong evidence that they do.


Yeah, the same evidence you are using for the Superman argument, the TV/Movie board.

Since it is universally panned here, the world must hate it.


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Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi on 8/22 at 8:02 pm to Tactical1
The Spider-Man comparison isn't an especially good one, as the sample size for one is much higher than the other.

The Superman films have a much similar sample size.



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Posted by JasonL79 on 8/22 at 8:03 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
Personally I liked Man of Steel much better than the older ones. I thought it was really good. I'm not really disappointed in the destruction like most of the others in this thread. I think it shows superman's inexperience in dealing with those situations. He had just become superman at this point and didn't know how to handle it. He had struggled his whole life with his powers.

While I liked the older ones, I tried to watch it recently and found it to not be as good as I thought it was.



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Posted by Tigris on 8/22 at 8:04 pm to Behind The Ivy
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two seemingly invincible characters throwing each other from building to building for 30 minutes gets old fast.


Yeah, exactly. Most superhero movies do this nonsense, though.



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Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi on 8/22 at 8:04 pm to Tactical1
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Yeah, the same evidence you are using for the Superman argument, the TV/Movie board.

I haven't said shite about the MTV boards' opinion.

I can't fricking believe you're still arguing this.




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Posted by Tactical1 on 8/22 at 8:05 pm to JasonL79
Don't get me wrong, I like Man of Steel, however this slightly above average film can't hide it's Transformers like plot and atmosphere behind the name of Christopher Nolan.


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Posted by Tactical1 on 8/22 at 8:06 pm to JasonL79
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I can't fricking believe you're still arguing this.


You brought up the viewer rating.

And I showed you how flawed it is to go by that.


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Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi on 8/22 at 8:08 pm to Tactical1
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Don't get me wrong, I like Man of Steel, however this slightly above average film can't hide it's Transformers like plot and atmosphere behind the name of Christopher Nolan.

And more people liked it than Supes Returns.

There is ZERO evidence to the contrary, or at least, you have failed to provide any.



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Posted by Tactical1 on 8/22 at 8:11 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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And more people liked it than Supes Returns.


And the only proof you have provided to support this is the clearly flawed viewer rating system.



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Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi on 8/22 at 8:15 pm to Tactical1
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And I showed you how flawed it is to go by that.

Using a movie that came out 20 years before rotten tomatoes, and another with a sample size 10x the size of the movie with which you were comparing.

So, you haven't shown shite.

Even if it is flawed, it is evidence that you are wrong. You can provide nothing to the contrary.

So, basically, you're arguing that more people like Supes Returns based on..... well..... cuz you said so.



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Posted by Tactical1 on 8/22 at 8:17 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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Even if it is flawed, it is evidence that you are wrong. You can provide nothing to the contrary.


Yes the Spider Man comparison did provide evidence as to how flawed that system is.

And you are saying more people liked Man of Steel because well, you know more people that said so.



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Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi on 8/22 at 8:23 pm to Tactical1
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Yes the Spider Man comparison did provide evidence as to how flawed that system is.

Why is that? Because you liked the 2002 Spider-man better?
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And you are saying more people liked Man of Steel because well, you know more people that said so.

I didn't say shite about people I know, but yes I know a hell of a lot more people that like MOS compared to Returns.

Just like the viewer ratings on RT.

Let me know when you have something......... any evidence that more people like Returns


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Posted by Tactical1 on 8/22 at 8:31 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
I got it broseph, more people like Man of Steel then Superman Returns, more people like The Amazing Spiderman, than Spiderman, and more people like Star Trek Into Darkness, than Star Trek II: Wrath of Kahn. Yet, were critically inferior.

Why, because the viewer rating on Rotten Tomatoes told us so.



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Posted by H-Town Tiger on 8/22 at 8:45 pm to Sentrius
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Superman doesn't kill, he finds every possible way he can to save the lives of everybody, good or evil


doesn't he kill Zod in Superman II? The crushes his hand and throws him over a cliff after taking away his powers.



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Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi on 8/22 at 8:46 pm to Tactical1
In other words, you have have jack shit, and really, you're just trolling.

Guess you got me.

Good night, homey.



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Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi on 8/22 at 8:49 pm to H-Town Tiger
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doesn't he kill Zod in Superman II? The crushes his hand and throws him over a cliff after taking away his powers.

I tried pointing this out. It was conveniently ignored.

Funny as shite that people had this gripe.

He basically had no choice in MOS, but in Superman 2, Zod had no powers, and Supes could have just taken him to the authorities, but no, he kills his arse instead.

Next, he goes and beats up the dude in the diner


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Posted by Tactical1 on 8/22 at 8:50 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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In other words, you have have jack shit, and really, you're just trolling.


It's not so much trolling as much as trying to prove that people seem to still have the Man of Steel glasses on, and with time, will come to the realization that while entertaining, it wasn't that great, just good. There is a reason it's the fourth best Superman film.

Good Night.


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Posted by SEClint on 8/22 at 9:08 pm to udtiger
I haven't seen this movie yet. Something always comes up, I'm really looking forward to sitting down alone and checking it out this coming week.

Just hope it does jusitce to Superman.



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Posted by simbo on 8/22 at 9:10 pm to Sentrius
Superman Returns was so close to the Donner movies that it looked like they dug up Reeves. I don't think thats why critics liked it more than MOS.

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Posted by Ibleedblackandgold on 8/22 at 10:05 pm to simbo
Go to YouTube type in Max Landis Superman. Everything he says about MOS is pretty much 100% spot on


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