Evidence showing the SEC schedule bias for Alabama and Auburn
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Posted by CrimsonTideMD on 7/24 at 9:56 pm to Lsupimp
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Lsupimp


The Bowl executive boards give two fricks what Scott Rabalais says or what LSU wants or what you think they deserve.

Each bowl picks the most profitable match up out of the teams they are allowed to choose from.

For the life of me I can't understand what is so hard for you to grasp about simple economics.



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Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican on 7/24 at 10:02 pm to CrimsonTideMD
I've already noted that we agree on that. (although I doubt youre very outspoken about such an atrocity that gives an advantage to your team).

This was referencing what the other bama fans in the sec offices are claiming. Try to keep up.


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Posted by CrimsonTideMD on 7/24 at 10:05 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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This was referencing
in your response to me.

It's complicated with all the tabs and buttons, I know.



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Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican on 7/24 at 10:08 pm to CrimsonTideMD
Dude I don't really have time to pick you each apart individually. I have to argue the general consensus that gumps see nothing wrong with the status quo. If u agree with me on that point then it's not directed at you. Get your panties out of a wad.

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Posted by McManus on 7/24 at 11:19 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
Here's the final version, McManus (Keyser Soze)

(Final Draft) Evidence Mounts of a Scandal in the SEC

In case you haven't heard, there is a Conspiracy theory regarding the "SEC Bridge Schedules.

Conspiracy theories happen all of the time, however, when they become backed up by facts, they are no longer conspiracy theories.

In 2013, there are only 2 teams out of 14 that benefited by "SEC Bridge Schedules", care to take a guess who they are?

After researching every SEC teams' rotating opponents, it is clear that in 2013, the "SEC Bridge Schedule" was created with intentional deceit and dishonesty, resulting in a scheduling advantage for Alabama and Auburn.

In 2013, they are the only 2 teams in the SEC, who are playing an easier opponent than they should be playing and it is clear how it was done.

The SEC schedule creator swapped the opponent that Alabama was "Due" to play with LSU, and swapped Auburn's opponent with Arkansas.

Alabama should be playing at Georgia in 2013 and LSU should be playing at Kentucky. Now, it's LSU at Georgia and Alabama at Kentucky.

Auburn should be playing at Florida in 2013 and Arkansas should be playing at Tennessee. Now, it's Arkansas at Florida and Auburn at Tennessee.

All of the facts needed to conclude how this was done are detailed in this report.

Background

What is the “SEC Bridge Schedule”?

In 2012, the SEC expanded from 12 to 14 teams, adding Missouri and Texas A&M. Prior to 2012, the SEC had 2 divisions with 6 teams, and a 5-1-2 scheduling format, totaling 8 conference games for each team. This means that each team would play the other 5 teams in their division, plus 1 permanent opponent from the other division, plus 2 rotating opponents from the other division.

After Missouri and Texas A&M joined the conference, there became 2 divisions with 7 teams, and the format changed to a 6-1-1 format, still totaling 8 conference games for each team. Every team would now play 6 teams from their division, 1 permanent opponent from the other division, and 1 rotating opponent from the other division.

In 2012 and 2013, the SEC called the schedule a “Bridge Schedule”. Every team would still play the 6 teams from their division and their permanent opponent from the other division. However, the rotating opponent would be selected by the SEC, and the conference stated that this opponent would not be based on any previous or future scheduling format. The SEC basically said that there would be no rhyme or reason as to how these schedules would be created. A Joe Pesci quote from the movie “JFK” sums up the SEC’s position on the “SEC Bridge Schedules”….“It’s a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma!”

This report will present evidence that proves that the SEC made a false statement, and that the “Bridge Schedule” was based on previous scheduling formats, and that intentional deceit and dishonesty occurred in the scheduling of 4 games.

The Mountain of Evidence

In order to understand how the “SEC Bridge Schedules” were created, it is necessary to view the most recent full rotation of rotating opponents from previous seasons. It is not necessary to view each team’s entire schedule from each season, since it is understood that each team played the other teams in their division, along with their permanent opponent from the other division. The permanent opponents are the following, Miss State / Kentucky, Ole Miss / Vanderbilt, Auburn / Georgia, Arkansas / South Carolina, Alabama / Tennessee, LSU / Florida, and Texas A&M / Missouri.

Presented are the 2 rotating opponents for the original 12 teams from 2007-2011. It is the most recent full rotation, and upon review, it becomes obvious if each team's opponent in 2012 and 2013 are based on the previous schedule rotation and makes sense, by playing the team that they were “Due” to play. It will also be obvious when the opponents don’t make sense and when games were swapped, and clearly who benefited most when this occurred. This evidence details exactly how the "SEC Bridge Schedules" were created.

Looking at the SEC West teams

Miss State

2007 - at South Carolina, Tennessee
2008 - at Tennessee, Vanderbilt
2009 - at Vanderbilt, Florida
2010 - at Florida, Georgia
2011 - at Georgia, South Carolina
2012 - Tennessee
2013 - at South Carolina

Miss State's opponents in 2012 and 2013 make sense. In 2007, they played Tennessee at home and South Carolina on the road. In 2012, they played Tennessee at home and in 2013, they will play South Carolina on the road.

Ole Miss

2007 - at Georgia, Florida
2008 - at Florida, South Carolina
2009 - at South Carolina, Tennessee
2010 - at Tennessee, Kentucky
2011 - at Kentucky, Georgia
2012 - at Georgia
2013 - Missouri

Ole Miss' opponents in 2012 and 2013 make sense. In 2007, they played Georgia on the road and in 2012, they played Georgia on the road. They will play Missouri in 2013 and this makes sense, since someone has to play Missouri.

Auburn

2007 - at Florida, Vanderbilt
2008 - at Vanderbilt, Tennessee
2009 - at Tennessee, Kentucky
2010 - at Kentucky, South Carolina
2011 - at South Carolina, Florida
2012 - at Vanderbilt
2013 - at Tennessee

Auburn played at Vanderbilt in 2012 and this does make sense, even though they were "Due" to play at Florida, like in 2007. The reason is because Florida had to play LSU at home in 2012. Since Florida could only play 1 SEC West team at home in 2012, it does make sense that the "Schedule Creator" moved down to the next road game in the rotation that they were ‘Due” to play, which was at Vanderbilt.

Auburn playing at Tennessee in 2013 makes zero sense, since they were still “Due” to play at Florida. We'll get back to that after reviewing Arkansas' schedule.

Arkansas

2007 - at Tennessee, Kentucky
2008 - at Kentucky, Florida
2009 - at Florida, Georgia
2010 - at Georgia, Vanderbilt
2011 - at Vanderbilt, Tennessee
2012 - Kentucky
2013 - at Florida

Arkansas played Kentucky at home in 2012, just like in 2007. This makes sense.

Arkansas playing at Florida in 2013 makes zero sense, since they were "Due" to play at Tennessee, like in 2007. In 2013, Auburn is "Due" to play at Florida, however, the "Schedule Creator" swapped these games. Now, Auburn is playing at Tennessee, and Arkansas is playing at Florida.

Florida is expected to be a much stronger team than Tennessee in 2013, so the only reason to swap these games is to give a clear advantage to Auburn.

Alabama

2007 - at Vanderbilt, Georgia
2008 - at Georgia, Kentucky
2009 - at Kentucky, South Carolina
2010 - at South Carolina, Florida
2011 - at Florida, Vanderbilt
2012 - at Missouri
2013 - at Kentucky

Alabama played at Missouri in 2012 and this makes sense, since someone had to play at Missouri.

In 2013, Alabama is "Due" to play at Vanderbilt, however, in 2013 Vanderbilt has to play their permanent opponent, Ole Miss at home, and since they can only play 1 SEC West team at home, Alabama could not play at Vanderbilt in 2013.

Next in the rotation, Alabama is “Due” to play at Georgia in 2013. However, they are playing at Kentucky, which makes zero sense. We'll get back to that after reviewing LSU's schedule.


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Posted by McManus on 7/24 at 11:20 pm to McManus
LSU

2007 - at Kentucky, South Carolina
2008 - at South Carolina, Georgia
2009 - at Georgia, Vanderbilt
2010 - at Vanderbilt, Tennessee
2011 - at Tennessee, Kentucky
2012 - South Carolina
2013 - at Georgia

LSU played South Carolina at home in 2012, just like in 2007. This makes sense.

LSU playing at Georgia in 2013 makes zero sense, since they were "Due" to play at Kentucky, like in 2007. In 2013, Alabama is “Due” to play at Georgia, however the "Schedule Creator" swapped these games. Now, Alabama is playing at Kentucky, and LSU is playing at Georgia.

Georgia is expected to be a much stronger team than Kentucky in 2013, so the only reason to swap these games is to give a clear advantage to Alabama.

Texas A&M

2012 - Florida
2013 - Vanderbilt

Texas A&M's opponents in 2012 and 2013 make sense. They had to play someone, so why not Florida and Vanderbilt, a tough opponent in 2012, followed by an easier opponent in 2013.

Looking at the SEC East teams

Missouri

2012 - Alabama
2013 - at Ole Miss

Missouri’s opponents in 2012 and 2013 make sense. They had to play someone, so why not Alabama and Ole Miss, and just like Texas A&M, a tough opponent in 2012, followed by an easier opponent in 2013.

South Carolina

2007 - at LSU, Miss State
2008 - at Ole Miss, LSU
2009 - at Alabama, Ole Miss
2010 - at Auburn, Alabama
2011 - at Miss State, Auburn
2012 - at LSU
2013 - Miss State

South Carolina's opponents in 2012 and 2013 make sense. In 2007, they played LSU on the road and Miss State at home. In 2012, they played LSU on the road and in 2013, they will play Miss State at home.

Vanderbilt

2007 - at Auburn, Alabama
2008 - at Miss State, Auburn
2009 - at LSU, Miss State
2010 - at Arkansas, LSU
2011 - at Alabama, Arkansas
2012 - Auburn
2013 - at Texas A&M

Vanderbilt's opponents in 2012 and 2013 make sense. In 2012, Auburn was "Due" to play at Florida, however, that could not happen because LSU was playing at Florida. Next in Auburn's rotation, they were “Due” to play at Vanderbilt in 2012, so this makes sense. In 2013, someone has to play Texas A&M, so why not Vanderbilt.

Florida

2007 - at Ole Miss, Auburn
2008 - at Arkansas, Ole Miss
2009 - at Miss State, Arkansas
2010 - at Alabama, Miss State
2011 - at Auburn, Alabama
2012 - at Texas A&M
2013 - Arkansas

Florida played at Texas A&M in 2012 and this makes sense, since someone had to play at Texas A&M.

In 2013, they are playing Arkansas, while they should be playing Auburn. From Florida's perspective, this is a "Wash", since not much is expected by Arkansas and Auburn in 2013, you can conclude that Florida is not receiving any benefit by playing Arkansas instead of Auburn.

Tennessee

2007 - at Miss State, Arkansas
2008 - at Auburn, Miss State
2009 - at Ole Miss, Auburn
2010 - at LSU, Ole Miss
2011 - at Arkansas, LSU
2012 - at Miss State
2013 - Auburn

Tennessee played at Miss State in 2012, just like in 2007. This makes sense.

In 2013, they are playing Auburn, while they should be playing Arkansas. Just like Florida, from Tennessee's perspective, this is a "Wash", since not much is expected by Auburn and Arkansas in 2013, you can conclude that Tennessee is not receiving any benefit by playing Auburn instead of Arkansas.

Georgia

2007 - at Alabama, Ole Miss
2008 - at LSU, Alabama
2009 - at Arkansas, LSU
2010 - at Miss State, Arkansas
2011 - at Ole Miss, Miss State
2012 - Ole Miss
2013 - LSU

Georgia played Ole Miss at home in 2012, just like in 2007. This makes sense.

In 2013, they are playing LSU instead of Alabama. From Georgia's perspective, this is a "Wash", since both LSU and Alabama are 2 of the best teams in the SEC West, you can conclude that Georgia is not receiving any benefit by playing LSU instead of Alabama.

Kentucky

2007 - at Arkansas, LSU
2008 - at Alabama, Arkansas
2009 - at Auburn, Alabama
2010 - at Ole Miss, Auburn
2011 - at LSU, Ole Miss
2012 - at Arkansas
2013 - Alabama

Kentucky played at Arkansas in 2012, just like in 2007. This makes sense.

In 2013, they are playing Alabama instead of LSU. Just like Georgia, from Kentucky's perspective, this is a "Wash", since both Alabama and LSU are 2 of the best teams in the SEC West, you can conclude that Kentucky is not receiving any benefit by playing Alabama instead of LSU.

Conclusion

If you are going to accuse someone of being dishonest or cheating, it is a good idea to have all of the facts to back up your claim.

These are the facts and they back up the claim that in 2013, the "SEC Bridge Schedule" was created with intentional deceit and dishonesty, resulting in an easier schedule for Alabama and Auburn.

In 2012, Alabama played at Missouri, and since someone had to play at Missouri, it may difficult to claim that scheduling Alabama at Missouri in 2012 was dishonest or improper. However, when you combine it with the scheduling fiasco in 2013, it becomes crystal clear that Alabama's games against Missouri and Kentucky in 2012 and 2013, were both scheduled to provide a clear advantage to Alabama.

In 2013, Alabama and Auburn are the only 2 teams that clearly received a benefit by the "SEC Bridge Schedule". Since not much is expected from Auburn in 2013, you can conclude that the main goal of the dishonest schedule creation was to provide Alabama with an easier schedule. Perhaps the "Schedule Creator" decided to include another team, so that it would not be so obvious as to what he was doing. The fact that he picked Auburn is just another slap in the face to everyone in the SEC, outside of the state of Alabama.

To sum up, Alabama and Auburn received an improper scheduling benefit in 2013. This was accomplished by a blatant form of deceit and dishonesty by the creator of the "SEC Bridge Schedule". There is no doubt about it, and it is crystal clear how it was done and which teams were affected. Any response by the SEC Office to justify these actions will not have the facts on their side.


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Posted by Jrv2damac on 7/24 at 11:21 pm to LSUBrad5277
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Don't worry Bama will get Georgia next year when they have a new QB and not a seasoned senior QB.


Doesn't UGA lose Murray after this year?



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Posted by McManus on 7/24 at 11:21 pm to McManus
What was the motivation for doing this?

In 2013, Alabama and LSU are expected to be 2 of the best teams in the SEC West. Any loss could impact who wins the division and advances to the SEC Championship Game, and perhaps to the BCS National Championship Game. There are 6 teams from the SEC that could start the season in the Top 10, (Alabama, Florida, Georgia, LSU, South Carolina, Texas A&M), and here is how they finished in the final poll last season.

2012 Final Coaches Poll

1. Alabama 13-1 (7-1 SEC)
4. Georgia 12-2 (7-1 SEC)
5. Texas A&M 11-2 (6-2 SEC)
7. South Carolina 11-2 (6-2 SEC)
10. Florida 11-2 (7-1 SEC)
12. LSU 10-3 (6-2 SEC)

In 2013, playing fewer games against these 6 teams is advantageous to playing more games against them. With that in mind, here are the results of the "SEC Bridge Schedule".

Number of games against the Top 6 SEC teams

2 - Alabama (LSU, Texas A&M)
2 - Texas A&M (Alabama, LSU)
2 - South Carolina (Florida, Georgia)
3 - Florida (Georgia, LSU, South Carolina)
3 - Georgia (Florida, LSU, South Carolina)
4 - LSU (Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Texas A&M)

Again, any response by the SEC Office to justify the "Bridge Schedule" will not have the facts on their side.

Below are some Conspiracy Theories, False Statements, Facts, and Analysis.

Conspiracy Theory

It’s obvious that the “SEC Bridge Schedules” provided Alabama with a scheduling advantage, it’s being referred to as “Bama’s Bridge”, and the only way that this could possibly happen is if someone from Alabama, or with ties to the University of Alabama was in charge of creating the schedules.

Fact

The person that oversees the creation of SEC Schedules is the Executive Associate Commissioner of the Southeastern Conference and has been at the SEC since 1978. His name is Mark Womack and he is from Tuscaloosa, and is a 1978 graduate from the University of Alabama.

Analysis

Until this is investigated further, it is impossible to know what role or influence Mr. Womack may have had in creating a favorable “SEC Bridge Schedule” for Alabama. However, if you wanted to start an investigation into this matter, it might be a good idea to begin with the person who had the duty of overseeing the creation of the schedules.

False Statements

The SEC has stated that the “SEC Bridge Schedules” are not based on any previous or future scheduling formats. The SEC is basically saying that there is no rhyme or reason as to how these schedules were created, “It’s a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma!”

Fact

After a detailed analysis of every game that was created by the “SEC Bridge Schedules”, it is abundantly clear that there was an effort to base these games on previous schedules. These matchups were not randomly created or pulled out of a hat. Previous schedules were the template for the “Bridge Schedules”, and there are 4 games in question, where it is clear that dishonesty and favoritism occurred.

Analysis

Why is Alabama playing at Kentucky and LSU playing at Georgia, when based on previous schedules, Alabama was “Due” to play at Georgia, and LSU was “Due” to play at Kentucky? How did it just so happen that these 2 games were swapped?

Why is Auburn playing at Tennessee and Arkansas playing at Florida, when based on previous schedules, Auburn was “Due” to play at Florida, and Arkansas was “Due” to play at Tennessee? How did it just so happen that these 2 games were swapped?

The reason for the statement by the SEC that the “SEC Bridge Schedules” are not based on any previous or future schedules has become crystal clear. The statement was only issued as a dishonest form of justification for swapping those 4 games, and to shield the SEC from being held responsible for creating a schedule that favored and provided a benefit to Alabama and Auburn.

The facts regarding how the “SEC Bridge Schedules” were created and who benefitted by intentional deceit and dishonesty are undeniable, and it is time for the Southeastern Conference to be held accountable for these actions.

There is no doubt that the SEC will deny that there was any dishonesty or favoritism involved in creating the “SEC Bridge Schedules”, however the facts speak for themselves.

Conspiracy theories happen all of the time, however, when they become backed up by facts, they are no longer conspiracy theories.


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Posted by blackjackjackson on 7/25 at 12:28 am to McManus



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Posted by LSUBrad5277 on 7/25 at 12:52 am to Jrv2damac
That's what it says.

quote:

Evidence showing the SEC schedule bias for Alabama and Auburn quote: Don't worry Bama will get Georgia next year when they have a new QB and not a seasoned senior QB.



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Posted by S.E.C. Crazy on 7/25 at 12:59 am to More beer please
We didn't skip Georgia ,brainiac, we were due to play Vandy, then UGA followed by Kentucky..... Which of the 2 teams that followed Vandy is closer to Vandy UGA or Kentucky ? HELLO , HELLO !!!!

You are just a biased fan.Take your purple glasses off.



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Posted by Jrv2damac on 7/25 at 1:35 am to LSUBrad5277
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That's what it says.


I misread it a little..I thought they were talking about Alabama instead of UGA. Don't have to requote it.
























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Posted by McManus on 7/25 at 2:46 am to S.E.C. Crazy
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We didn't skip Georgia ,brainiac, we were due to play Vandy, then UGA followed by Kentucky..... Which of the 2 teams that followed Vandy is closer to Vandy UGA or Kentucky ? HELLO , HELLO !!!!

You are just a biased fan.Take your purple glasses off.


An expected response of denial by an Alabama fan, however if you read the report, you would see that there was a method in creating the Bridge Schedules.

If the opponents from 2007, could not be scheduled due to other circumstances, as detailed in the report, then the next team in the rotation was scheduled.

In only 4 cases was this method deviated from.

In 2013, Alabama is "Due" to play at Vanderbilt, however, in 2013 Vanderbilt has to play their permanent opponent, Ole Miss at home, and since they can only play 1 SEC West team at home, Alabama could not play at Vanderbilt in 2013.

Next in the rotation, Alabama is “Due” to play at Georgia in 2013.

Alabama, who was "Due" to play at Georgia, was swapped with LSU, who was "Due" to play at Kentucky.

Auburn, who was "Due" to play at Florida, was swapped with Arkansas, who was "Due" to play at Tennessee.


Once these 4 scheduling cases are determined to have deviated from the method used in the majority, the only explanation as to why this deviation occurred is to determine the beneficiaries of that deviation.

This will be my only response on this board regarding this report.

This is not a pissing contest, the facts of what occurred are undeniable.


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Posted by Jaydeaux on 7/25 at 6:35 am to McManus
Funny how a bammer will say how tough they are and the.n defend their soft schedule. You'd think those fricking red necks would be screaming for a tough schedule


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Posted by YouAre8Up on 7/25 at 7:15 am to LSUAlum2001



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Posted by mlminbtr on 7/25 at 7:30 am to CrimsonTideMD
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Each bowl picks the most profitable match up out of the teams they are allowed to choose from.


Coming from someone who can't understand simple grammar.



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Posted by BamaPride on 7/25 at 9:59 am to LSUAlum2001
Sorry, I was sent here from a Facebook post but I have a couple of questions about your post.

So, since Alabama plays Kentucky this year, 1 out of 12 games, this clearly gives Alabama an advantage for the year in what way? Alabama plays Virginia Tech, A&M, Tennessee, Arkansas, LSU and Auburn. Those are not easy games ever. You know as well as I do that the SEC is the toughest conference to play in. That is why the last 7 champions are from the SEC. I would not say that any SEC team has an "easy" schedule.

Also, I saw in some responses to this post that the SEC Headquarters being in Birmingham give Alabama and Auburn an advantage. The HQ has been in Birmingham for 65 years. How does this possibly give Alabama and Auburn an advantage? Wouldn't that mean that Alabama and Auburn should win at least the SEC championship every year?

Roll Tide!!



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Posted by Lsupimp on 7/25 at 10:05 am to mlminbtr
Bottom line is NOT that LSU has to play the games and win the games.

The bottom line is that LSU has to play and win AND make it extremely painful for The SEC offices to continue to screw LSU on schedules, bowl games, game dates (that screwy Thanksgiving day game) .

The SEC office finds no issue with packing their office decision-makers with Bama loyalists. They find no issue with BRAZENLY screwing LSU and delicately rolling out the red carpet for Alabama. I know and respect that many of you have a sense of competitiveness that wants to just say "screw it-we'll beat em anyway". Others honestly don't understand the BAMA-CENTRIC CORPORATE CULTURE OF THE SEC OFFICES and don't want to believe that it's integrity has been compromised. I get that. Nobody wants to argue their case from a vantage point of weakness that exposes oneself to the ridicule of The football Establishment that is perfectly fine with ignoring or minimizing the schedule.

The ONLY way this changes is by letting the League offices know we expect better, and holding them accountable PUBLICALLY. I applaud Alleva and Miles for FINALLY taking this one on head-on.

Now let's go beat the living shite out of Georgia, Florida, Bama and the rest of em.



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Posted by More beer please on 7/25 at 10:43 am to Lsupimp
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know and respect that many of you have a sense of competitiveness that wants to just say "screw it-we'll beat em anyway".


I cant stand these comments everyone keeps throwing out.

Obviously we have to win with the schedule at hand. But if you arent supposed to play certain teams, and dont have to, then why continually take unnecessary "body blows" during the season?



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Posted by Lsupimp on 7/25 at 10:53 am to More beer please
I understand.
But some people REALLY DON'T KNOW what they don't know.
They just see any complaint as a sign of weakness and just want the Tigers to go out there and whip that ass.
That's awesome, imho.
But only HALF the correct prescription.
WIN AND RAISE HELL ABOUT CORRUPTION.



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