Anybody who is a member of Blue Cross get the scary letter in the mail today?
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re: Anybody who is a member of Blue Cross get the scary letter in the mail today?
Posted by SlowFlowPro on 6/30 at 12:21 am to Scoop
i actually opened a letter today (it was sent a week or so ago) from my health insurance policy writer that is getting out of the health insurance business and i'm left without a plan...this is after my plan has bsaically doubled in monthly premiums since obamacare


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Posted by JabarkusRussell on 6/30 at 12:21 am to Layabout
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The sad thing is that if you lose that roll of the dice, the rest of us will still have to pick up the tab for your sorry ass.


Which is why this law is a joke. Do I want insurance? Absolutely but if my job won't provide it, I'm not paying the huge rates for an individual when it is cheaper for me to pay the fine.



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Posted by EST on 6/30 at 7:42 am to Layabout
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That's what a community does, except maybe in your Randian utopia of selfishness and greed.


Freedom = selfishness and greed?

Forced "community" by an elite few is the ultimate example of selfishness and greed.


The opposition to Obamacare is not about people in various communities CHOOSING to pool resources using insurance to make healthcare more affordable. We are opposed to Obamacare because:
1. It is mandated by government - you are forced to participate or face fines or prison.
2. It is controlled and enforced by a government that is both corrupt and inefficient.
3. It is unconstitutional.
4. Obamacare has been a lie - it was sold as a lie that Dems believed.
5. It doesn't solve the very issue Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Landrieu and the rest of the D's claimed it would - insuring all Americans. Latest estimate is over 30 milion will remain uninsured.
6. ObamaCare is designed to FAIL. The goal is a single-payer system totally controlled by the Feds - no insurance companies. Once that happens, the FEDS OWN YOU and they will tell you everything you can and can't do because they pay for your life.
7. And finally, ObamaCare isn't about healthcare - its about unqualified, corrupt people in DC gaining control of the economy and your entire life.

BTW, this is what happens when you view the US Constitution as a "living, breathing" document -> people twisting it and purposely misinterpreting it to get around it. Anyone who tells you the US Constitution is a "living" document cannot be trusted with political power.



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Posted by novabill on 6/30 at 7:43 am to Layabout
When you gonna bring me my boat and rv?

Stop being so greedy and give me some of your stuff.



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Posted by EST on 6/30 at 7:43 am to bigbowe80
Did anyone who is a state employee and has Blue Cross get this letter?

I have not. Just curious.



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Posted by EST on 6/30 at 7:46 am to JabarkusRussell
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I am just going to pay the fine


I hope the idea of paying a fine to the government for not buying a product does not sit well with you or anyone else. This fine is totally Un-American.



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Posted by elprez00 on 6/30 at 8:02 am to Layabout
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It's going to be a godsend to those with chronic health problems who otherwise are uninsurable. Consider that you could be one of them in a nanosecond if you break your neck in a car wreck.

Except all the heathy people are going to pay way more to subsidize that cost, but please continue.



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Posted by CITWTT on 6/30 at 8:08 am to Bestbank Tiger
No, but guess what a meal at the tables of family gatherings are centered upon? You would never have eaten a second meal after a day of hearing mom talk about her patients at clinicals that day, actually getting through that meal might be too much.


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Posted by FlagLake on 6/30 at 8:13 am to EST
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Posted by EST Did anyone who is a state employee and has Blue Cross get this letter? I have not. Just curious.


I haven't received one either.



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Posted by Reubaltaich on 6/30 at 8:33 am to Layabout
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Layabout

That's what a community does, except maybe in your Randian utopia of selfishness and greed.


So clown, you gonna send me a check every month to help cover the rising costs of my health care insurance?



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Posted by EST on 6/30 at 8:34 am to FlagLake
Thanks.


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Posted by CarrolltonTiger on 6/30 at 8:37 am to Layabout
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Sounds like a typical group plan. Most people don't pay attention to it because their employer pays the bill. What you're describing is probably going to impact only those who purchase individual non-group policies.


Yes, the employer pays the massive increases, there will be no consequences for employees.



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Posted by Bestbank Tiger on 6/30 at 8:38 am to CITWTT
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No, but guess what a meal at the tables of family gatherings are centered upon? You would never have eaten a second meal after a day of hearing mom talk about her patients at clinicals that day, actually getting through that meal might be too much.


I kneaux. Your post sounded like Miss Vito when Mr. Trotter was trying to voir dire her.

I tried to think of a BS (trick) question to ask but couldn't come up with one



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Posted by novabill on 6/30 at 11:01 am to CITWTT
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No, but guess what a meal at the tables of family gatherings are centered upon? You would never have eaten a second meal after a day of hearing mom talk about her patients at clinicals that day, actually getting through that meal might be too much.


Not disagreeing with you. However, if you chose to not eat more, that would be your choice. May even be mine. But what I disagree with is the government making that decision for me. Taking from me to give to them. When robinhood did it, it was theft, when obama does it it is still theft.



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Posted by Taxing Authority on 6/30 at 11:54 am to Tigah in the ATL
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that is kinda the way insurance works.
No. No. No. What has "insurance" has morphed is redistribution scheme. But that isn't insurance. Congrats on being uninformed on how actuary principles work. You're a prime candidate for the casino.



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Posted by Taxing Authority on 6/30 at 11:57 am to Layabout
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The sad thing is that if you lose that roll of the dice, the rest of us will still have to pick up the tab for your sorry ass.
Great argument against government-provided care.



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Posted by JabarkusRussell on 6/30 at 1:27 pm to EST
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I hope the idea of paying a fine to the government for not buying a product does not sit well with you or anyone else.


Absolutely not but what choice do I have? Go to jail?



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Posted by NC_Tigah on 6/30 at 1:37 pm to Layabout
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It's going to be a godsend to those with chronic health problems who otherwise are uninsurable
Along with individuals who will no longer be able to afford their current coverage, I believe they'll find Medicaid to be no "godsend".



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Posted by TerryDawg03 on 6/30 at 1:37 pm to CITWTT
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No, but guess what a meal at the tables of family gatherings are centered upon? You would never have eaten a second meal after a day of hearing mom talk about her patients at clinicals that day, actually getting through that meal might be too much.


This doesn't change the fact that you either 1) Demonstrated a lack of understanding of healthcare premiums by comparing it to hazard insurance, or 2) Said something that was incorrect to try to prove a borderline false point, in addition to calling someone a "BS hack."

It's great that your family has experience in the healthcare industry, but that doesn't mean they understand healthcare economics, especially at a macro level. Nor does it mean that you have mastered it by sharing a dinner table with them.



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