LHSAA goes full retard
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Posted by chalmetteowl on 4/26 at 9:37 am to ThisWayChad
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This is a John Curtis and Evangel problem, plain and simple. I don't have any stats, but somebody in this thread mentioned that Curtis has been to 17 straight title games in their class. If that is accurate, or even remotely close to being accurate, then I really don't know what to say to people who don't see the problem


it is accurate, but is it a problem? or is it something we should celebrate?

you have to remember they're an LHSAA member high school too. they play by the rules all schools play by (bc no one has proved that they don't)

i long for the day when other HS take their football as seriously, and John Curtis becomes just another great program in a state full of them


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Posted by ThisWayChad on 4/26 at 9:42 am to chalmetteowl
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it is accurate, but is it a problem?


yes

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or is it something we should celebrate?


no

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you have to remember they're an LHSAA member high school too. they play by the rules all schools play by (bc no one has proved that they don't)


I did not forget anything.




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Posted by oauron on 4/26 at 9:44 am to diablo blanco
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So, I should believe these athletes just wander up to these private schools and ask to play football there?



I'm pretty sure every kid who wants to play football already starts out in peewee knowing that John Curtis has the best team in the state. Pretty sure they turn down even more athletes than they accept.



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Posted by StanleyB on 4/26 at 9:47 am to oauron
2A Baseball Seeds: #1 Calvary, #2 John Curtis, #3 Evangel.

2A Softball Seeds: #1 John Curtis, #2 Riverside, #3 Evangel




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Posted by JJ27 on 4/26 at 9:50 am to StanleyB
Sad part is they don't want to separate them from public schools in any other sport, just football. So they'd still have those seeds even with the split.


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Posted by ThisWayChad on 4/26 at 10:03 am to JJ27
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Sad part is they don't want to separate them from public schools in any other sport, just football. So they'd still have those seeds even with the split.


Why is it sad? Some guy from Chalmette just told me this is to be celebrated because the rules allow it.



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Posted by Jim Rockford on 4/26 at 1:50 pm to chalmetteowl
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i long for the day when other HS take their football as seriously, and John Curtis becomes just another great program in a state full of them


I'm a huge football fan, but the last thing we need is every other school putting as much emphasis on football as John Curtis.



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Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican on 4/26 at 4:16 pm to chalmetteowl
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you have to remember they're an LHSAA member high school too. they play by the rules all schools play by (bc no one has proved that they don't)



i didnt read everything, but it's page 9 in this thread. Surely the recruiting angle has been discussed by now? Curtis can recruit players from outside their area(legally) and public schools can't. Not really the same.


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Posted by CyrustheVirus on 4/26 at 4:33 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Curtis can recruit players from outside their area(legally) and public schools can't. Not really the same.


Yes they can, they just have to get them to move into the district instead of get them to pay tuition.



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Posted by chalmetteowl on 4/26 at 4:36 pm to Jim Rockford
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I'm a huge football fan, but the last thing we need is every other school putting as much emphasis on football as John Curtis.


it might help some of our poorer public schools...

nobody claims the resident football factories in LA are Ben Franklin or whoever, but if kids weren't being educated you think those schools would survive?


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Posted by teke184 on 4/26 at 4:51 pm to Jim Rockford
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If the shoe was on the other foot, the schools hollering now would screw the upstate public schools without a second thought. Sucks to be you, and I'm not unsympathetic to the schools that are just caught in the crossfire. But at the end of the day, the upstate and rural public schools are doing what they think is best for them. What's best for Brother Martin or Catholic HS doesn't enter into their thinking, nor should it.


One, name me a situation where the private schools, mainly in South LA, would be going out of their way to frick over North LA public schools.

Just because McCall HS in Tallulah has beaten my alma mater multiple times in the 2A basketball playoffs doesn't mean I'm going to get them sent to a separate set of playoffs under a bull shite claim of "fairness".


Two, tell me exactly how fricking over roughly 25% of the LHSAA membership because of two specific schools is going to do anything but cause more friction between various members instead of solving the entire problem, which is the perception, rightly or wrongly, that Curtis and Evangel recruit and have undue advantages.



Winnfield et all could have pushed forward legitimate measures to force the LHSAA leadership to look into Curtis and Evangel, given that those two particular schools have been a source of friction for nearly 20 years, as 4A wanted no part of Curtis and 5A wanted no part of Evangel before both were sent down to 2A.

In short, I'm fricking PISSED that the public schools and, by extension, the LHSAA has thrown all private schools under the bus because no one wants to address the goddamn elephants in the room.



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Posted by Sophandros on 4/26 at 5:24 pm to CyrustheVirus
Or the parents sign a "lease" on a house in the area to "prove" that they live there.

I've seen that first hand here in Atlanta.



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Posted by GhostofJackson on 4/27 at 3:06 pm to teke184
From my understanding on what may happen, either this bill will get dropped in the next week or so, or this will drag out into the summer. If it gets drug out for a couple more months, we can expect that over the summer the LHSAA will be reduced to only private schools and the public school league will have to configured. The private schools would most likely vote out of the LHSAA anyone who came from a public background and elect their own leaders. Last minute reconfiguring of the classifications and districts would have to happen. There are only around 70 private schools so it may simply be reduced to large schools and small schools.

I would also imagine that some of the stricter rules on recruiting would be relaxed since private schools need to recruit students to fill the desks, and an all private organization will not encourage obstacles for that.

I would also imagine that referees and officials would choose to work mainly for the private schools over the public schools in the New Orleans and Baton Rouge areas.

I would expect that the public schools outside of the New Orleans and BR regions would not be affected much, but public schools in the city would have a much harder time getting quality officials for their events.

All in all, I think that both organization would survive, but the oversights that keep recruiting at private schools from taking athletes at the public schools would be finished.



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Posted by chalmetteowl on 4/27 at 3:12 pm to GhostofJackson
this will be all about money to be made...

i don't think the richer public schools want to subsidize the poorer ones anymore than the Catholic schools want to...



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Posted by Methuselah on 6/5 at 6:38 am to chalmetteowl
So, anybody expecting decisions to come out of today's meeting? Or will it take a couple of days.

(This is the most recent thread I could find on the subject. Thought there would be more discussion ahead of the meeting).

Advocate article


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Posted by choupiquesushi on 6/5 at 7:34 am to GhostofJackson
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So instead of recommending to keep the the system the way it is, the committee recommends to divide the 70 or so private schools into 5 divisions.


certain 4a and 5a schools will stop at nothing to not be in same class with JC and ECA..... which is what started all this in the first place...

and the full retard started by splitting in the first place.... letting class b and c schools vote on a football only issue is sheer insanity...

this week could be a turning point in the history of the LHSAA...

teams in 4a and 5a that want nothing to do with the two schools previously mentioned have lawsuits ready to roll...



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Posted by choupiquesushi on 6/5 at 7:43 am to choupiquesushi
if any of you were at any of the LHSAA meetings/discussions that put Curtis and ECA playing in their enrollment class - would realize... who wields the power in LA and.... and how katrina.. undid their "perfect medicine" to clip the patriots and eagles wings....

there were many that thought pushing them to 1a and 2a would sink them........

last years curtis team was one of the best ever fielded in LA.... ECA is now recovered from the CBA split.....

and.. recruiting isn't the biggest problem people have with them.. not the people that really know whats going on.... heck their are some schools that have been more than 10 years without a state title in a boys sport.. that are out recruiting EVERYONE and then some.....


and FWIW.... The LHSAA needs to be completely revamped.... the last few years have proven that...

and Their is a willing and capable person waiting in the wings to drive the bus should there be upheaval.....



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Posted by choupiquesushi on 6/5 at 7:45 am to GhostofJackson
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I would also imagine that referees and officials would choose to work mainly for the private schools over the public schools in the New Orleans and Baton Rouge areas.



This would be one of the real crippling effects... especially for sports other than football... the private schools talking about walking.. are talking about it for all sports...



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Posted by chalmetteowl on 6/5 at 7:51 am to choupiquesushi
Those schools in football are a tough out no matter what the "perfect medicine" would have been. The best way to neutralize them would be.to develop more programs on their level.


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Posted by choupiquesushi on 6/5 at 7:53 am to chalmetteowl
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Those schools in football are a tough out no matter what the "perfect medicine" would have been. The best way to neutralize them would be.to develop more programs on their level.


having them play in anything but the highest class is a sham.....



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