Washington State AG files suit against florist who refused gay customers
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Washington State AG files suit against florist who refused gay customers
Posted by LSUDVM1999 on 4/10 at 11:55 am
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I hope this state's Consumer Protection Act gets trashed by the judge as I don't understand how the government can declare to private business who they can and can't do business with. If this stands, it sets a very dangerous precedent for any private business.

Before I'm called a homophobe, I could give 2 shits about gays getting married however I am against the strong arming of the government at any level to any private business. Even if this is tossed out, this business has to pay for the cost of legal defense against this suit, which is not cheap unless the attorney does it pro-bono.




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Posted by SlowFlowPro on 4/10 at 11:57 am to LSUDVM1999
while i do detest these laws, this is a state law. states may create a much more expansive system than the baseline of the US constitution

if they don't like it, they need to move to a state without these absurd laws

HOWEVER, this is EXACTLY the reason why i fear suspect classes in general. forcing private individuals to act in a way that government sees to be best. eliminating liberty and free choice



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Posted by Scruffy on 4/10 at 11:58 am to LSUDVM1999
It is situations like this that have convinced me to be against gay marriage out of pure spite.
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Before I'm called a homophobe, I could give 2 shits about gays getting married
You do not need to clarify your position. People need to quit doing this.



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Posted by Homesick Tiger on 4/10 at 11:59 am to LSUDVM1999
If the govt. can make a business put in wheel chair ramps that might get used once a month I figure this suit will be settled rather quickly - for the fairies.


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Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt on 4/10 at 11:59 am to LSUDVM1999
That's bull shite.

It should be 100% up to the owner if he/she doesn't want a certain person's money.



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Posted by Sentrius on 4/10 at 12:00 pm to LSUDVM1999
It's situations like this that reinforce my opposition to homosexuality being a protected class.

It's a legit reason to oppose gay marriage.



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Posted by CITWTT on 4/10 at 12:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
States ignore half of the Tenth, the Fedrales try as hard a possible to completely ignore the 10th.


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Posted by GoBigOrange86 on 4/10 at 12:02 pm to LSUDVM1999
I think the florist is being absolutely ridiculous. "No thanks, I don't want that money."

Having said that, it's her decision to turn away perfectly good money for whatever ridiculous reason she wishes to turn it away.



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Posted by Toddy on 4/10 at 12:03 pm to LSUDVM1999
Is she allowed to refuse service to black, Asian, disabled, or red headed customers ?


What I find ironic about this is that she had one of these guys as her customer for YEARS. She supplied arrangements for him to send to his boyfriend MANY times while they were dating. And she knew what they were for. Now all of sudden that they are getting married she refuses his business.



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Posted by lsuroadie on 4/10 at 12:11 pm to Toddy
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Is she allowed to refuse service to black, Asian, disabled, or red headed customers ? What I find ironic about this is that she had one of these guys as her customer for YEARS. She supplied arrangements for him to send to his boyfriend MANY times while they were dating. And she knew what they were for. Now all of sudden that they are getting married she refuses his business




what's the problem?



Rahm Emauel can reject Chik Fil A coming to Chicago, but a business owner flips the coin?


Yeah, really tolerant.



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Posted by imjustafatkid on 4/10 at 12:13 pm to Toddy
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What I find ironic about this is that she had one of these guys as her customer for YEARS. She supplied arrangements for him to send to his boyfriend MANY times while they were dating. And she knew what they were for. Now all of sudden that they are getting married she refuses his business.


Nope. Just refusing to do the wedding.



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Posted by SlowFlowPro on 4/10 at 12:15 pm to Toddy
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Now all of sudden that they are getting married she refuses his business.

isn't that her right, no matter how irrational?

if it's irrational, she'll suffer economically. that SHOULD be the punishment she receives for making irrational decisions



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Posted by CITWTT on 4/10 at 12:16 pm to Toddy
But there is no agenda at all to you. The STATE is suing to make her and other businesses to bow down at the altar of dick regardless of the thoughts of the business owners decisions.


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Posted by imjustafatkid on 4/10 at 12:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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if they don't like it, they need to move to a state without these absurd laws


I agree with this, but that's the same argument I make about gay marriage. They can move to states that allow it just as easily as this business owner can move to a state that allows her to sell to whomever she wishes. It would likely be more difficult for the business owner to do that, but them's the breaks. Elections have consequences even at the local level.



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Posted by DevilDogTiger on 4/10 at 12:19 pm to LSUDVM1999
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It is situations like this that have convinced me to be against gay marriage out of pure spite.



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Posted by imjustafatkid on 4/10 at 12:23 pm to LSUDVM1999
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Under the Consumer Protection Act, it is unlawful to discriminate against customers on the basis of sexual orientation. If a business provides a product or service to opposite-sex couples for their weddings, then it must provide same-sex couples the same product or service.


I wonder if this would apply to churches that accept money to perform wedding ceremonies. I'm sure that's the logical next step here.



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Posted by Layabout on 4/10 at 1:38 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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It should be 100% up to the owner if he/she doesn't want a certain person's money.


Those Woolworth lunch counters should be able to refuse service to anyone they want. Same with Holiday Inn.



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Posted by upgrayedd on 4/10 at 1:48 pm to LSUDVM1999
Seems like a bad business decision to me. I would think there would be a fight in any local floral industry to get the homosexual male demographic on lock...business for years.


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Posted by Captain Ron on 4/10 at 1:49 pm to lsuroadie
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what's the problem?


Rahm Emauel can reject Chik Fil A coming to Chicago, but a business owner flips the coin?


Yeah, really tolerant


This.

..and Chic Fil A didn't reject gays from eating in the restaurants; the founder just expressed an opinion on his thoughts on gay marriage.




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Posted by LasVegasTiger on 4/10 at 1:58 pm to upgrayedd
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Seems like a bad business decision to me. I would think there would be a fight in any local floral industry to get the homosexual male demographic on lock...business for year



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