Godfather question that's always bothered me
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Godfather question that's always bothered me
Posted by Jim Rockford on 4/10 at 3:05 am
Why does Vito let his daughter marry a punk like Carlo? The Corleones are social climbers, that's one of the main themes. Sure, Connie is hard headed, but he can make an offer Carlo can't refuse. He's done it before for less. Connie gets to be the jilted bride for a while, then gets married off to some nice college boy who won't ask too many questions about his inlaws' line of work.




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Posted by Spock's Eyebrow on 4/10 at 3:39 am to Jim Rockford
The Don has a sentimental weakness for his children and spoils them, as you can see.



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Posted by Sparky36 on 4/10 at 5:11 am to Spock's Eyebrow
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The Don has a sentimental weakness for his children and spoils them, as you can see.


Well played.




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Posted by TigerMyth36 on 4/10 at 5:25 am to Sparky36
Not like Connie was going to have people knocking down her door.


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Posted by geauxjo on 4/10 at 6:05 am to Spock's Eyebrow
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The Don has a sentimental weakness for his children and spoils them, as you can see.


Yup. Spoiled guinea brat. Carlos had it pegged.



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Posted by Mr Gardoki on 4/10 at 6:39 am to Jim Rockford
Connie became more annoying with each movie.


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Posted by Breesus on 4/10 at 6:58 am to Jim Rockford
He didn't want to interfere with his daughters happiness. His children are his weak spot. Family is what is most important above all other things.


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Posted by Ace Midnight on 4/10 at 7:23 am to TigerMyth36
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Not like Connie was going to have people knocking down her door.


Just some punk boxer from Philly...



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Posted by Rex on 4/10 at 7:42 am to Jim Rockford
There's a book.



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Posted by 12 on 4/10 at 7:49 am to Jim Rockford
Poor Connie.

She flew around the world with men who didn't even care about her, and used her like a whore!






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Posted by TigerintheNO on 4/10 at 8:00 am to Jim Rockford
Carlos was Sonny's friend & he introduced them.


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Posted by Methuselah on 4/10 at 8:21 am to Spock's Eyebrow
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The Don has a sentimental weakness for his children and spoils them, as you can see.

Yeah. If you think about it, 3 out of his 4 children were pretty fricked up. Sonny was a hot head and couldn't control his temper. Connie had horrible taste in men. And Fredo, well, what can you say about Fredo. I don't think you can even pin that on his upbringing. But he was a mess.

Only Michael was fairly well adjusted till the toll of the family business got to him.



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Posted by skullhawk on 4/10 at 8:36 am to Spock's Eyebrow
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The Don has a sentimental weakness for his children and spoils them, as you can see.





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Posted by Baloo on 4/10 at 8:40 am to Methuselah
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And Fredo, well, what can you say about Fredo. I don't think you can even pin that on his upbringing. But he was a mess.

Don't you talk about Fredo! He's probably the most "normal" of the kids, and I like that of the 3 of 4 screwed up kids, you exclude the total sociopath. Mike is pretty much pure evil. He's the godfather without that love of family thing.

Fredo has jealousy issues, sure. He's just not a criminal at heart. He's a good natured guy who just wants to go fishing with the kids. He had no place in the criminal underworld. Fredo nurtured the goodness in himself, and only really saw the good in others. Unfortunately, he lived in reality in which most people had little to no goodness.

Fredo is the tragic hero of the first two films.



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Posted by Methuselah on 4/10 at 8:58 am to Baloo
Sure, by the end Michael had gone to some really dark place. But at the beginning, he was pretty well adjusted.

Fredo was just weak and ineffective. Vito really should have set him up in some small legit enterprise outside of the true family business. Maybe running a small grocery or something. He was just never going to be able to cut it in the cutthroat world that the Corleone's operated in.



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Posted by Baloo on 4/10 at 9:08 am to Methuselah
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But at the beginning, he was pretty well adjusted.

no. He wasn't. He was always evil. Mike is the one who suggests killing a cop, a near unbreakable taboo in his first foray into the Business. He is not the corrupted, he is always Corrupt. There is no fall from grace.

That's why the "that's my family, not me" line is so important. It is him. He was more ruthless than Vito ever dreamed of being himself.



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Posted by TigerRad on 4/10 at 9:15 am to Baloo
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Fredo is the tragic hero of the first two films.


you must have misspoken. I am sure you intended to say "of the films".

I mean, there are only two total, so yknow there ya go.

I mean, if there were another, it would change everything.

There are two Godfather movies.

There are two Godfather movies.

There are two Godfather movies.

There are two Godfather movies.

There are two Godfather movies.

keep repeating it.....




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Posted by udtiger on 4/10 at 9:20 am to Jim Rockford
Interesting tidbit.

Paul Anka was on O & A yesterday and said that Frank Sinatra tried like a motherfricker to get the role of Vito Corleone. PA said that for Sinatra, his biggest regret was not getting that role.



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Posted by jsquardjj on 4/10 at 9:55 am to udtiger
Anyone ever read the Sicilian? The end of the book is where Michael goes home and talks to his father for the first time after hiding in Italy. He basically tells him that his first priority is to look after himself and keep himself alive, even if it means dishonor to anyone else.

I think that is where he became corrupted. Killing the officer was just to avenge his father.


This post was edited on 4/10 at 10:02 am

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Posted by Tiger Ryno on 4/10 at 9:59 am to Mr Gardoki
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Connie became more annoying with each movie.


well its not like they could kill her off..I mean she is the director's sister.



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