After giving Promet[h]eus a shot on cable
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Posted by Freauxzen on 4/10 at 4:29 pm to Fox Mulder
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See I feel like sci fi completely lacks grit nowadays. With all of this digital filmmaking bullshite, everything is so neat and sterile and thus BORING


We're talking about two different kinds of grittiness. But I would agree....

But Prometheus is exactly that as well. Get past Scott's color tones and the movie is also extremely "digitized."

Think about JC...pretty much the exact opposite color palette.




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Posted by Jwodie on 4/10 at 4:31 pm to Freauxzen
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I hate Prometheus because I love the originals so much (mostly the first 3). Scott shite on those. Maybe not like Lucas did on Indiana, but enough for Prometheus itself to be a giant turd.

He really needed to decide whether to:

1. Make an Alien prequel
2. Make a new film

He did both and neither and that really affected the output. And you can tell.


Do you concur, Dr.? I concur.



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Posted by Fox Mulder on 4/10 at 4:32 pm to Freauxzen
It was cleaner but the things still had grit. Plus they shot on real sets with real things. it was still great. maybe an small instance of fakey fake riding to the chambers. I'm color blind so I'm not going to try and talk about color palettes. My 2 1/2 yo nephew is better with colors

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Posted by manwich on 4/10 at 4:37 pm to Jwodie
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Do you concur, Dr.? I concur.



argh, why didn't i just concur



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Posted by Freauxzen on 4/10 at 4:38 pm to Fox Mulder
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It was cleaner but the things still had grit. Plus they shot on real sets with real things. it was still great. maybe an small instance of fakey fake riding to the chambers. I'm color blind so I'm not going to try and talk about color palettes. My 2 1/2 yo nephew is better with colors


I brought up color as another counterpoint to your reaction.

It is/was sounding to me that you really wanted something more complex/dense/heavy. That's how Nolan is making films nowadays (among others) and they have their place. Prometheus fits very comfortably with the "gritty reality," with loads of depression, and (you guessed it), blue and grey color palettes.

John Carter both artistically, and thematically, is about as opposite as you can get. Which is maybe where your reaction is coming from.

But the color blindness thing ruins all of that.


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Posted by Fox Mulder on 4/10 at 4:43 pm to Freauxzen
Yeah, big time. I have an app on my phone that supposedly makes it so I can see colors the way eveyone else does. I will say that Prometheus is visually stunning and that's a huge plus but not in the way it sounds. The frame isn't cluttered up with cgi shite. I just appreciate old fashioned production values like sets and costumes. I know that sounds stupid but it's completely missing from the genre today as with action movies. Bigger is not better, Hollywood.


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Posted by Freauxzen on 4/10 at 4:45 pm to Fox Mulder
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Yeah, big time. I have an app on my phone that supposedly makes it so I can see colors the way eveyone else does. I will say that Prometheus is visually stunning and that's a huge plus but not in the way it sounds. The frame isn't cluttered up with cgi shite. I just appreciate old fashioned production values like sets and costumes. I know that sounds stupid but it's completely missing from the genre today as with action movies. Bigger is not better, Hollywood.


We can agree on this,

While I love the Hobbit, I think a lot of the soul was missing without real orcs. It just felt plastic.

I'll admit, John Carter had that too. I felt that it wasn't necessarily a knock on the film though. It's hard NOT to do that currently, given costs.



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Posted by Fox Mulder on 4/10 at 4:47 pm to Freauxzen
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While I love the Hobbit, I think a lot of the soul was missing without real orcs. It just felt plastic.


And rivendell but I felt those were minor complaints when considering the things the movie did right and that movie was unfairly trashed.



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Posted by JombieZombie on 4/10 at 5:05 pm to blueboy
I knew it was going to be bad when an out of place Patrick Wilson starts speaking in a horrible British accent and prerequisites the ham-handed religious themes.


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Posted by blueboy on 4/10 at 5:08 pm to manwich
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a fair assessment. no hard feelings from yesterday, blue

Never, dude. You're one of my top 5 posters.



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Posted by blueboy on 4/10 at 7:33 pm to manwich
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Prometheus 2: The Secret of the Goo

That's the one, dude.
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Promethreeus



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Posted by blueboy on 4/10 at 7:44 pm to Freauxzen
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Freauxzen

Here's how I look at it. It's like a bad novel. The writer is trying so hard to chock it full of deep meaning in an effort to be respected by other writers that he forgets to come up with a storyline that anyone would give a shite about.



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Posted by blueboy on 4/10 at 7:50 pm to Josh Fenderman
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and how both girls insisted on running a straight line to escape

Well they are women...
Also ridiculous. Of all the options they had at their fingertips to kill off the already unnecessary Theron, they choose "getting squished by giant space ship due to moronic lack of running course change.

Even the most hackneyed storyteller could have done better than that.



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Posted by blueboy on 4/10 at 7:56 pm to Freauxzen
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"Dystopian future"
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The Running Man? Minority Report? The list goes on with films and properties that don't have any of the above.
I'm not sure it's possible to be more dystopian than the worlds in which these movies are set.

You arguing just to argue again.

And yes, sorry. I checked up on this thread late and I'm reading it as I watch the news. Sorry for the delayed replies.



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Posted by Fox Mulder on 4/10 at 7:58 pm to blueboy
This thread made me pop in soylent green

Not a bad thread



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Posted by Freauxzen on 4/10 at 7:59 pm to blueboy
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Here's how I look at it. It's like a bad novel. The writer is trying so hard to chock it full of deep meaning in an effort to be respected by other writers that he forgets to come up with a storyline that anyone would give a shite about.


Well said.



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Posted by tubucoco on 4/10 at 8:00 pm to blueboy
Anyone wanna splain to me how the baby inside her was a big starfissh, octopus looking thing when it came out, but was a lil alien thing when it came out of the humanoid alien?? wtf

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Posted by Freauxzen on 4/10 at 8:00 pm to blueboy
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I'm not sure it's possible to be more dystopian than the worlds in which these movies are set.

You arguing just to argue again.



Not trying to, I was still responding to the sentiment that science fiction = ONLY THESE ATTRIBUTES + Dystopian Settings. Not responding to the quote exactly.



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Posted by Fox Mulder on 4/10 at 8:05 pm to Freauxzen
didn't say that but more often than not, they have one or more of those qualities. dystopian future being one of them not a universal rule


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Posted by BOSCEAUX on 4/10 at 9:05 pm to Freauxzen
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For me, it undermines the entire intention of the genre itself to leave something so open and problematic. There's a difference between openness and a gaping plothole.


I believe the original Alien left just as many unanswered questions and we had to wait some 30 years just to get the answer to one (the space jockey) we still don't know who sent the distress signal or why the ship was full of eggs.



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